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  • Great Postseason Careers

    i just thought we could discuss the great lesser-known postseason careers

    everyone knows about reggie, maz, thomson and dusty rhodes

    but what about paul blair and billy martin to name two

  • #2
    Originally posted by bkmckenna
    everyone knows about reggie, maz, thomson and dusty rhodes

    but what about paul blair and billy martin to name two
    I'm disagreeing on Thomson and Blair, but I get the point.

    Billy Hatcher
    Bert Blyleven
    Steve Garvey

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    • #3
      Steve Garvey
      Lenny Dykstra
      Marquis Grissom
      Devon White

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      • #4
        Paul Blair. In the 1966 World Series he hit a 430-foot home run to win Game 3. In Game 4 he made a game-saving, leaping catch to ensure a 1-0 victory. In the 1969 American League Championship Series Blair’s suicide squeeze won Game 1. In Game 3 he notched two singles, two doubles and a home run to help complete the sweep of Billy Martin’s Twins.
        In the 1970 World Series Blair went 9 for 19, batting .474 with 5 runs and 3 RBI in the win over Cincinnati. With the Yankees in ‘77 Blair’s game-winning RBI in Game 1 of the Fall Classic helped New York defeat Los Angeles in six games. His .375 batting average did the same the following year.

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        • #5
          My two choices for the greatest postseason players, the guys who you could always count on in the clutch, were Roberto Clemente and Brooks Robinson. They executed the big plays that won ballgames, both at the plate and on the field.

          Kudos also go out to Mariano Rivera, doing better than anyone else in being a postseason closer, arguably the most pressure-packed role in all of sports.
          Last edited by Redondos; 01-25-2006, 01:35 PM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Redondos
            My two choices for the greatest postseason players, the guys who you could always count on in the clutch, were Roberto Clemente and Brooks Robinson. They executed the big plays that won ballgames, both at the plate and on the field.

            Kudos also go out to Mariano Rivera, doing better than anyone else in being a postseason closer, arguably the most pressure-packed role in all of sports.
            Pepper Martin has to be on this list. As does Dr. Bobby Brown.

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            • #7
              Adam Kennedy of the Angels had 3 Home Runs in the ALCS against the Twins in '02, a feat that gets no credit. Another Angel or now formal, Bengie had three straight games with a home run and I'm not to sure about Carlos Beltran.

              Bob Gibson was pretty clutch in the playoffs. 17 K's against Detroit in the WS. Everyone knows Mariano Riveras great playoff career (minus Game 7 of the 2001 WS).
              "The AL Team representing Orange County" - Joe Buck "The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim near the Arrowhead Pond, south of Santa Barbera" - Dan Patrick "The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim of California of USA...near San Juan Capistrano" - Peter Gammons...Chris Berman

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              • #8
                So how do you define peak for post-season? One game? One series? One at-bat? Because many guys - like Paul Blair and Reggie Jackson - who had brilliant WS moments, did poorly in the LCS....or Mickey Mantle who had a few good WS but a lot of awful ones.

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                • #9
                  World Series BA:

                  Name, number of WS, HxAB=BA

                  All these stats are raw, not indexed to L. ave. So deadballers would look MUCH better if relative stats were used.

                  Allan Trammell 1, 9x20=.450
                  Tony Gwynn 2, 15x35=.428
                  Pepper Martin 3, 23x55=.418
                  Paul Monitor 2, 23x55=.418
                  George Brett 3, 27x69=.391
                  Ted Kluszewski 1, 9x23=.391
                  Lou Brock 3, 34x88=.386
                  Roberto Alamar 3, 26x68=.382
                  Al Kaline 1, 11x29=.379
                  Robin Yount 1, 12x29=.379
                  Bill Madlock 1, 9x24=.375
                  Nellie Fox 1, 9x24=.375
                  Roberto Clemente,2 21x58=.362
                  Frank Baker 6, 33x91=.362
                  Hank Aaron 3, 25x69=.362
                  Lou Gehrig 7, 43x119=.361
                  Reggie Jackson 6, 39x110=.354
                  Carl Yastrzemski 2, 19x54=.351
                  Earle Combs,4, 21x60=.350
                  Tommy Davis 2, 8x23=.347
                  Joe Jackson 2, 19x55=.345
                  Jimmie Foxx 3, 22x64=.343
                  Derek Jeter 4, 26x76=.342
                  Rickey Henderson 3, 19x56=.339
                  Eddie Collins 6 42x128=.328
                  Al Simmons 4, 24x73=.328
                  Paul Waner 1, 5x15=.333
                  Pedro Guerrero 1, 7x21=.333
                  Jim Rice 1, 9x27=.333
                  Joe Medwick 2 15x46=.326
                  Babe Ruth 10, 42x129=.325
                  Charlie Gehringer 3, 26x81=.320
                  Hack Wilson 2, 15x47=.319
                  Hank Greenberg 4, 27x85=.317
                  Johnny Evers 4, 24x76=.315
                  Frank Chance 4, 22x71=.309
                  Kirby Puckett 2, 16x52=.307
                  Tris Speaker 3, 22x72=.305
                  Honus Wagner 3, 20x66=.303
                  Mel Ott 3, 18x61=.295
                  Bill Terry 3, 18x61=.295
                  Frankie Frisch 7, 58x197=.294
                  Harry Hooper 4, 27x92=.293
                  Pie Traynor 2, 12x41=.292
                  Enos Slaughter 5, 23x79=.291
                  Duffy Lewis 3, 19x67=.283
                  Wally Schang 6, 27x94=.287
                  Goose Goslin 5, 37x129=.286
                  Duke Snyder 6, 38x133=.285
                  Wade Boggs 2, 12x42=.285
                  Johnny Mize 5, 12x42=.285
                  Luis Aparicio 2, 12x42=.285
                  Ross Youngs 4, 26x91=.285
                  Zach Wheat 2, 13x46=.282
                  Johnny Bench 4, 24x86=.279
                  Yogi Berra 14, 71x259=.274
                  Pee Wee Reese 7, 46x169=.272
                  Frank Robinson 5, 24x88=.272
                  Joe DiMaggio 10, 54x199=.271
                  Pete Rose 6, 35x130=.269
                  Brooks Robinson 4, 18x67=.268
                  Gil Hodges 7, 35x131=.267
                  Joe Dugan 5, 24x90=.266
                  Carl Furillo 7, 34x128=.265
                  Heinie Groh 5, 19x72=.263
                  Tony Lazzeri 7, 28x107=.261
                  Ty Cobb 3, 17x65=.261
                  Elston Howard 9, 40x153=.261
                  Mickey Mantle 12, 59x230=.256
                  Bill Dickey 8, 37x145=.255
                  Stan Musial 4, 22x86=.255
                  Phil Rizzuto 8, 42x165=.254
                  Mickey Cochrane 5, 27x110=.245
                  Fred Clarke 2, 13x53=.245
                  Rogers Hornsby 2, 12x49=.244
                  Earl Smith 5, 11x46=.239
                  Fred Merkle 5, 21x88=.238
                  Billy Herman 4, 16x66=.242
                  Tony Perez 5, 23x95=.242
                  Sam Crawford 3, 17x70=.242
                  Jack Barry 5, 21x87=.241
                  Harmon Killebrew 2, 7x29=.241
                  Gabby Street 4, 13x54=.240
                  Roy Campanella 5, 27x114=.236
                  Mark Koenig 5, 18x76=.236
                  Joe Morgan 4, 20x85=.235
                  Roger Maris 7, 35x152=.230
                  Willie Mays 3, 13x57=.228
                  Jackie Robinson 5,25x110=.227
                  Mike Schmidt 2, 9x41=.219
                  Edd Roush 1, 6x28=.214
                  Al Oliver 1, 4x19=.211
                  Jim Gillian 7, 31x147=210
                  Bob Meusal 6, 27x129=.209
                  Stuffy McInnis 5, 13x65=.207
                  Eddie Mathews 3, 10x50=.200
                  Darryl Strawberry 2, 8x40=.200
                  Ted Williams 1, 5x25=.200
                  Tony Oliva 1, 5x26=.192
                  Art Fletcher 4, 18x94=.191
                  Mark McGwire 3, 9x48=.187
                  Ken Griffey 2 8x43=.186
                  Richie Ashburn 1, 3x17=.176
                  Frankie Crosetti 7, 20x115=.173
                  Eddie Murray 3, 11x65=.169
                  Cal Ripken 1, 3x18=.167
                  Everett Scott 5, 14x90=.155
                  Dave Winfield 2, 6x44=.136
                  Vada Pinson 1, 2x22=.091
                  Last edited by Bill Burgess; 01-25-2006, 02:31 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Gehrig is pretty amazing to have batted so high over 7 WS.

                    Brock was money in the fall classic, not only hitting but stealing bases. If not for one bad baserunning decision in 1968....
                    "There ain't much to bein' a ballplayer...if you're a ballplayer. "

                    --Honus Wagner

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by [email protected]
                      World Series BA:

                      Name, number of WS, HxAB=BA

                      All these stats are raw, not indexed to L. ave. So deadballers would look MUCH better if relative stats were used.

                      Allan Trammell 1, 9x20=.450
                      Tony Gwynn 2, 15x35=.428
                      When the bar is set at a minimum of 40 plate appearances (a more reliable indicator of consistency), Bobby Brown leads the pack with a .439 BA over four WS.

                      I'm surprised he was missing from this list.
                      Last edited by shlevine42; 01-25-2006, 02:44 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by shlevine42
                        Pepper Martin has to be on this list. As does Dr. Bobby Brown.
                        The fact that this thread went to six posts before anyone mentioned Pepper Martin was literally making me ill. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for redeeming my faith in humanity.

                        Brown is, I completely agree, forgotten about to far too great of an extent.
                        "Simply put, the passion, interest and tradition surrounding baseball in New York is unmatched."

                        Sean McAdam, ESPN.com

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by [email protected]
                          World Series BA:

                          Name, number of WS, HxAB=BA

                          All these stats are raw, not indexed to L. ave. So deadballers would look MUCH better if relative stats were used.

                          Harmon Killebrew 2, 7x29=.241
                          Growing up, Harmon Killebrew was my baseball idol. But he never made it to two world series, though he did hit better than .241 in 1965.


                          - rgl

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Argyle
                            Growing up, Harmon Killebrew was my baseball idol. But he never made it to two world series, though he did hit better than .241 in 1965.


                            - rgl
                            Gee. When I compiled that list, I did it the old-fashioned way. I first sat down and made a list of all I remembered who played a lot of WS. Yankees, Dodgers, etc. I didn't copy it from anywhere. Just went through Total Baseball, and there must be many dozens of players missing. I was going for name recognition, and volume of WS experience.

                            Don't know how Killebrew got in. I must have confused post-season with WS.

                            Bill

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                            • #15
                              .... and it's because I'm an old-fashioned Twins fan first and baseball in general second that Killebrew's stats leaped off the page for me. The other guys on your list, .... well, I'd have to look 'em up.

                              - rgl

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