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    To all posters of BBF- don't be fooled be that 113 ERA+, Robin Roberts was very good, and let me tell you why.

    His 4688.7 IP is 20th all time.
    He had amazing leaderboard numbers during his time.
    4 times led league in BB/9IP
    1 time led league in WHIP
    6 straight years in games started
    5 straight in innings
    5 straight in complete games
    2 in strikeouts
    Shutouts 1 time.

    This proves that not only was Roberts VERY durable, but also, he did everything he could. True, ERA+ of 113, and gave up the most homers. But his PRAA is 276- which is better than Nolan Ryan, Sandy Koufax, and Juan Marichal.

    Let's honor Robin Evan Roberts!

    http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/ho...erts_robin.jpg

    ----------Robin Roberts, Phillies' P, 1950-59-----------------------------------------------1950-59---BB Reference--------------------------------------1948-49
    Last edited by Bill Burgess; 05-15-2009, 03:25 PM.

  • #2
    He'll be at Camden Yards Tuesday night with Weaver, Ripken, Brooks and Murray - and Palmer I guess.

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    • #3
      Cool.


      You know, Roberts has always been kind to the fans, too. It's great to seee a Hall of Famer be so willing for his fans.

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      • #4
        When I first really became aware of major league baseball in 1954, I was 8 years old and we lived about 30 miles from Philadelphia. We used to watch the Phillies on TV, with Byrum Saam as the announcer.

        My impression, at that age, was that the Holy Trinity was Robin Roberts, Curt Simmons, and Richie Ashburn.

        Seriously, Robbie has always been "my hero" in that he stayed in shape, gave 110%, played fair, and was perhaps the very best right-hander in the NL for the entire 1950s.

        Even now, as an old fossil in my 60s, if I ever actually met up with Robin Roberts, I'd ask for his autograph and tell him that he was my first baseball "hero!"

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        • #5
          Well said, OX.

          Roberts helps out, in community too, he not only obliges to the fans for autos, but also recommends donations to the Baseball Assistance Team (BAT) which helps Baseball Families.

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          • #6
            One stat that you left out, LKF, was Roberts' 305 complete games. (No that is not a typo). 305, is the correct figure as unheard of as that might be to today's fans. If he played for the Yankees over the same era, Roberts would have added so significantly to his victory total that by today, Roger Clemens, with his 350 wins still wouldn't have caught Robin on the career wins list.
            Roberts 28-7 in 1952 is still the second best single season victory total after World War Two, behind only Denny McClain's 31-6 for Detroit in 1968.

            PS: See my thread on Jimmie Foxx and A-Rod that should have been posted in this section "History Of The Game", but was mistakenly posted in the adjacent thread, "Hall Of Fame Talk".-phillies fiend 55.
            Last edited by philliesfiend55; 07-23-2007, 06:37 PM.

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            • #7
              Excellent stuff guys

              Let's hope the Roberts thread will have similar success to the Musial Thread.

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              • #8
                Men like Roberts will always be overlooked simply because he didn't play in the "top cities," flying high in Philly and shining in Baltimore before the championship years - and the fact that he pitched on so many also-rans.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bkmckenna View Post
                  He'll be at Camden Yards Tuesday night with Weaver, Ripken, Brooks and Murray - and Palmer I guess.
                  Tuesday the 24th? Palmer is supposed to be in Columbus, Ohio, to speak about high cholesterol before the Clippers game.

                  Roberts is one of the most under-regarded pitchers of all time. He just did his job for years and years.
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                  • #10
                    Robin signed eight photos for me at a signing in New Jersey in Feb. 1996. He couldn't have been more gracious. I had this one print of a photo taken when Cy Young had come to visit him before a game in the Phillies clubhouse in the early 50's. He seriously got excited when he saw that photo and even interrupted Bob Gibson who was signing at the adjacent table to show him the photo of himself with Young. He had forgotten that the photo was taken and was happy to see that there was a photo that still existed of him with this legend. It showed that there was still a lot of little kid and fan in him, although he had met and played with and against some of the greatest.
                    Last year I went to the Phillies Wall Of Fame Game where Dallas Green was honored in August. Just before we got to the park Roberts was interviewed as part of the pre-game festivities. That interview was the best part of the ceremony. It made me wish that I was home taping it instead of just listening to it on the car radio. Roberts as always showed himself to be a charming, intelligent man, who is "with it" even at age 80.
                    Born a few days after the Korean War ended in '53, I have memories of Roberts from age six on in 1959. He was revered in my family even though by the time I became aware of him his career was a bit on the downslide. Watching Roberts "run out of gas" and finish his career short of 300 wins was one of my more disappointing moments as a fan in my teens.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
                      Tuesday the 24th? Palmer is supposed to be in Columbus, Ohio, to speak about high cholesterol before the Clippers game.

                      Roberts is one of the most under-regarded pitchers of all time. He just did his job for years and years.
                      Guess not Palmer but the others to kick off Ripken's trip this weekend.

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                      • #12
                        It's a shame that guy didn't win a World Series. The closest he came was the Whiz Kids.

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                        • #13
                          I remember back in 1964 when the Orioles (with Robin as one of their starters) were leading the Yankees late in August, and the Phillies looked like they would win the National League pennant.

                          I really hoped to see Robbie pitching in the Series against his old team. But (sigh!) it wasn't to be, for either team.......

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                          • #14
                            I'm very happy to say I have gotten his autograph a couple times. Thanks Robin!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by THE OX View Post
                              When I first really became aware of major league baseball in 1954, I was 8 years old and we lived about 30 miles from Philadelphia. We used to watch the Phillies on TV, with Byrum Saam as the announcer.

                              My impression, at that age, was that the Holy Trinity was Robin Roberts, Curt Simmons, and Richie Ashburn.

                              Seriously, Robbie has always been "my hero" in that he stayed in shape, gave 110%, played fair, and was perhaps the very best right-hander in the NL for the entire 1950s.

                              Even now, as an old fossil in my 60s, if I ever actually met up with Robin Roberts, I'd ask for his autograph and tell him that he was my first baseball "hero!"
                              I lived in NJ 30+ years ago. Being from Detroit metro, I assumed that everyone thought Al Kaline was the greatest defensive OF of his time. When baseball came up, several Phillie fans informed me that Richie Ashburn was and there would be no convincing them otherwise. To them, not knowing that proved to them I was only a homer. Now that I have a much better understanding of Ashburn's defensive statistics, I have to agree with them. I wish we could've all seen him play.

                              Without a doubt, Robin Roberts was the greatest RH in the 1950s.
                              In the 1920's, Harry Heilmann led the AL with a .364 average. In addition, he averaged 220 hits, 45 doubles, 12 triples, 16 homers, 110 runs, and 130 RBI.

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