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    I should probably throw in Stan Musiel. Is it possible to definitively say which one is the best LF in history?

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    MINNIE MINOSO!:gt
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    • #3
      Re: Ted Williams and Barry Bonds

      Originally posted by onejayhawk
      I should probably throw in Stan Musiel. Is it possible to definitively say which one is the best LF in history?

      J
      I'll take Barry, myself. He is currently far more dominant than Ted Williams ever was, and, in his career, has been a total of 200 runs better (using RAA) defensively than Ted.

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      • #4
        Williams is the "purest" hitter in MLB history and people forget how astonishing his numbers would be without all those missed seasons due to war.

        Bonds, however, is simply the most complete left fielder in history. He has the best combination of peak and career performance.

        I'd give my left arm to have Williams somewhere in the lineup; can you say "designated hitter"? (I knew you could!) But if I have to play someone in left field, it's Bonds.

        Not by a landslide, but he's enough just enough that I can make the statement with confidence.

        I pick Bonds.
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        • #5
          Re: Ted Williams and Barry Bonds

          Originally posted by onejayhawk
          Is it possible to definitively say which one is the best LF in history?
          Nope, it just isn't. They all three have extremely compelling cases to be made in their favor. Also, being that Musial and Williams played in a different era from Bonds the comparisons are all the more difficult to make.

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          • #6
            1. Musial- personal choice, great teammate etc. Plus a great hitter.
            2. Williams
            3. Bonds ( I could never put him ahead of those 2 because of jerkitus)
            Last edited by nightal; 11-30-2003, 03:08 PM.
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            • #7
              1.Barry(sadly, I hate him though)
              2.Stan
              3.Teddy
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              • #8
                Stan's great, not better than Barry, though. Definetly not better than Ted.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BoSox Rule
                  Stan's great, not better than Barry, though. Definetly not better than Ted.
                  Not even as an all-round player?
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                  • #10
                    What about the Rickey???? The Rickey would be very upset that you left him off your list and I am sure the Rickey would tell you that the Rickey does not like to be disrespected because the Rickey is the greatest ever...just ask him...


                    Seriously though most SB ever, most RUNS ever, most WALKS ever and 300 HR to boot (well 297). Potentially the most dangerous lead off man ever and a GG to boot (granted only 1 but he was a pretty solid fielder..oh and he does have 3000 hits to go with all those walks...

                    he shoudl at least be in the discussion although I wouldn't mind him at #4 it would be a close #4
                    GO CARDINALS!!!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BoSox Rule
                      Stan's great, not better than Barry, though. Definetly not better than Ted.

                      Is this about hitting only?, not fielding, teams winning championships, being a great teammate etc?

                      Oh!
                      Waner, Mantle, Bench, Nightal?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by nightal
                        Is this about hitting only?, not fielding, teams winning championships, being a great teammate etc?

                        Oh!
                        The Rickey says it's about fielding and running too and the Rickey says he i s a great teammate he once went out of the way to help a teammmate who had to wear this funny helmet all the time and then he had another teammmate like that and he came right over to introduce himself and make him feel welcome because that is the kind of guy The Rickey is..

                        Seriously though Musial wasn't exactly known for his glove so Bonds would win any comparison of the glove between Musial, Williams, himself, and yes even The Rickey..but don't tell the The Rickey I said that
                        GO CARDINALS!!!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Etheridge2
                          The Rickey says it's about fielding and running too and the Rickey says he i s a great teammate he once went out of the way to help a teammmate who had to wear this funny helmet all the time and then he had another teammmate like that and he came right over to introduce himself and make him feel welcome because that is the kind of guy The Rickey is..

                          Seriously though Musial wasn't exactly known for his glove so Bonds would win any comparison of the glove between Musial, Williams, himself, and yes even The Rickey..but don't tell the The Rickey I said that
                          Agreed, but gosh wouldn't you rather have Musial around?
                          Waner, Mantle, Bench, Nightal?

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                          • #14
                            I'd take Barry. He's the best hitter ever. His OBP and SLG is always sky high, he's a decent defender, and has decent speed.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jose_Reyes_Revolution
                              I'd take Barry. He's the best hitter ever. His OBP and SLG is always sky high, he's a decent defender, and has decent speed.
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