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  • #16
    No one gave a nod to Carlton's slider?

    How bout Nolan Ryan's durability?

    Or Mark Fidrych's conversations with the baseball?
    I AM ROSTERDAMUS!!!

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    • #17
      I thought about this and realized the answer is simple .Start with Tom Seaver and call it a day. Perfect mechanics, smart, dedicated, fast,gritty ,excellent control and goal driven. Seaver was so good for so long for all the right reasons.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Lindseynelson
        I thought about this and realized the answer is simple .Start with Tom Seaver and call it a day. Perfect mechanics, smart, dedicated, fast,gritty ,excellent control and goal driven. Seaver was so good for so long for all the right reasons.
        But if he's no better than the seventh best pitcher, why would you choose him :noidea
        Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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        • #19
          He had it all in one package. I don't know about 7th best or whatever I just know that if you want to be a pitcher you could do far worse then to emulate him. We remember Ryans tough days with the lousy Angel teams but Seaver pitched some great ball with teams that had a lineup of Bud Harrelson, Warning track Wayne Garrett and a host of other Banjo hitters. I remember seeing the Big Red Machine guys going 15-5 and 14-5 etc and thinking Seaver was one year I think 16-14 with an era of 2.10 or close to it. Put Seaver in Cincy 5 years earlier and he'd have knocked on 375 wins.

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          • #20
            Ryan's Fast
            Johan Santanna's Change
            Koufax's Curve
            Wakefield's Knuckle
            Randy's Slider
            Last edited by k2king; 02-08-2006, 12:58 PM.

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            • #21
              I'll take Steve Dalkowski's heater, in that brief period of time after Earl Weaver tamed him and before he hurt himself.
              Rip Sewell's eephus
              Mike Scott's emory board

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              • #22
                Joe Montana´s brain

                Seriously, Clemens´legs could belong here.

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                • #23
                  greg maddux with a blyleven curve and waddell fastball

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                  • #24
                    Height: 6'-5" -- Weight: 210 lbs.
                    Throws: Lefty -- Bats: Switch
                    Number: 22
                    Hometown: Springfield, USA
                    High School: George Washington
                    Drafted: 1st overall by the Philadelphia Phillies
                    College: N/A
                    Debut: 17
                    Finale: 49
                    Team(s): Phillies

                    Stamina
                    Career longevity: Cy Young
                    In-season stamina: Old Hoss Radbourn
                    Ability to pitch through pain: Sandy Koufax

                    Pitch-by-Pitch Attributes
                    Control: Greg Maddux
                    Speed: Nolan Ryan
                    Attitude (on the mound): Bob Gibson
                    Preparation: Greg Maddux
                    Windup: Bob Feller
                    Delivery point(s): Luis Tiant (multiple)
                    Pick-off move: Andy Pettitte

                    Offensively
                    Bunting: Greg Maddux
                    Hitting (power & avg.): Wes Ferell (Ruth is too easy)
                    Base running: Burleigh Grimes

                    Defensively
                    Glove: Greg Maddux
                    Arm Strength: Smoky Joe Wood
                    Throwing Accuracy: Greg Maddux
                    Versatility: Smoky Joe Wood

                    Pitch Repertoire
                    Big Train's fastball
                    Sandy Koufax's curveball
                    Christy Mathewson's fadeaway
                    Mariano Rivera's cutter
                    Pedro Martinez's changeup

                    Personal
                    Attitude (off the mound): Walter Johnson
                    Face: Old Hoss Radbourn
                    Arms: Randy Johnson (aka long arms)
                    Torso: David Wells
                    Legs: Roger Clemens
                    Chaw: Big Ed Walsh
                    Cap: Craig Kimbrel
                    Sleeves: Cole Hamels
                    Knickers: Mark Prior
                    Cleats: Greg Maddux
                    "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                    • #25
                      ^^^

                      Left-handed pitcher, BlueSky?

                      Why not make him ambidextrous?
                      My top 10 players:

                      1. Babe Ruth
                      2. Barry Bonds
                      3. Ty Cobb
                      4. Ted Williams
                      5. Willie Mays
                      6. Alex Rodriguez
                      7. Hank Aaron
                      8. Honus Wagner
                      9. Lou Gehrig
                      10. Mickey Mantle

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                      • #26
                        Fastball: Dizzy Dean
                        Curve: Dizzy Dean
                        Off speed: Dizzy Dean
                        Control: Dizzy Dean
                        Stamina: Dizzy Dean
                        Confidence: Dizzy Dean
                        Cajones: Dizzy Dean

                        Hmm, I think I found mine.
                        "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                          ^^^

                          Left-handed pitcher, BlueSky?

                          Why not make him ambidextrous?
                          Happy Birthday, Tony Mullane. 1/30/1859-4/25/1944.
                          "Any pitcher who throws at a batter and deliberately tries to hit him is a communist."

                          - Alvin Dark

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by AstrosFan View Post
                            Happy Birthday, Tony Mullane. 1/30/1859-4/25/1944.
                            You might be cool, but you're not ambidextrous big league pitcher who inspired Ladies Day cool! The Count probably had furry dice hanging from the top of his horse-drawn wagon!!


                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                            "Hey Mr. McGraw! Can I pitch to-day?"

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                            • #29
                              Sandy Koufax plus Cy Young's longevity.
                              Your Second Base Coach
                              Garvey, Lopes, Russell, and Cey started 833 times and the Dodgers went 498-335, for a .598 winning percentage. That’s equal to a team going 97-65 over a season. On those occasions when at least one of them missed his start, the Dodgers were 306-267-1, which is a .534 clip. That works out to a team going 87-75. So having all four of them added 10 wins to the Dodgers per year.
                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5hCIvMule0

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                                ^^^

                                Left-handed pitcher, BlueSky?

                                Why not make him ambidextrous?
                                You know I thought about this. That ambidextrous Vanderbilt pitcher is in the Mets system is he not?
                                "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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