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    I was just thinking about teams that went from great to crap instantly, like the 1914 and 1915 A's, and started wondering about teams that turned around the other direction fastest. Thought of Detroit in the 1880's. In 1884, they went 28-84, for a .250 winning percentage- same as the '62 Mets. They had three starters who hit under .200, although to be fair, two of those players were the shortstop and the right fielder- who were two of the starting picthers when not in the field, although they managed a combined 12-44 on the mound, so their pitching was as bad as their hitting.

    Two years later, they were 87-36 and lost the pennant to Chcago by two games (they won it the next year, however). Their lineup suddenly included Dan Brouthers, Sam Thompson, Hardy Richardson, Fred Dunlap, Jack Rowe, and Deacon White, and on the mound Lady Baldwin and Pretzels Getzein had career years.

    That's a pretty fast one. Any other good ones spring to mind?
    "Here's a crazy thought I've always had: if they cut three fingers off each hand, I'd really be a great hitter because then I could level off better." Paul Waner (lifetime .333 hitter, 3,152 lifetime hits.

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    The Cleveland Indians of 1993 and 1994. In 1993 the Indians season was, for all intents and purposes, over before it even started. In 1994 they made the move to Jacobs Field and became pennant contenders.

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    • #3
      90/91 Twins and 86/87 Twins
      Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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      • #4
        Recently the Braves and Twins both went from last to first but to me, the most fascinating has been the Marlins.They ought to be called the Fla YO-YOs. They went from nowhere to series champs back to the bottom and just like that Series champs again. Other clubs keep "rebuilding" in the basement year after year and the weakly supported( can't figure that out with the Latino population) Marlins win ,break up, rebuild quickly and win again.

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        • #5
          Florida Marlins 1997-98
          1997: 92-70 (World Champs)
          1998: 54-108

          Cincinnati Reds 1990-91
          1990: 91-71 (World Champs)
          1991: 74-88

          Philadelphia Phils 1950-51
          1950: 91-63 (NL Champs)
          1951: 73-81
          Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lindseynelson
            Recently the Braves and Twins both went from last to first but to me, the most fascinating has been the Marlins.They ought to be called the Fla YO-YOs. They went from nowhere to series champs back to the bottom and just like that Series champs again. Other clubs keep "rebuilding" in the basement year after year and the weakly supported( can't figure that out with the Latino population) Marlins win ,break up, rebuild quickly and win again.
            This offseason the Marlins traded away most of their best players but got a HUGE return in top prospects. They stripped the Mets of three of their top four prospects. I expect the Marlins to be good again by early as next year.
            Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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            • #7
              That's been their history and doggone it it works. I bet a lot of Royal and Tiger and Pirate fans etc wouldn't mind a year or two of struggle ( instead of 10 or 12) for a WS payoff. Cub fans too for that matter!

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              • #8
                nothing built pennant winners and dynasties faster than syndicate ball - and advantageous trading relationships
                Last edited by Brian McKenna; 02-09-2006, 01:56 PM.

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                • #9
                  Atlanta Braves 1990-91
                  1990: 65-97
                  1991: 94-68

                  NY Mets 1968-1969
                  1968: 73-89
                  1969: 100-62 (World Champs)
                  Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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                  • #10
                    Boston Red Sox

                    1945: 71-83 (7th place AL)
                    1946: 104-50 (1st place AL)


                    1966: 72-90 (9th place AL)
                    1967: 92-70 (1st place AL)

                    Chicago Cubs

                    1983: 71-91 (5th place NL East)
                    1984: 96-65 (1st place NL East)

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                    • #11
                      Since I'm from KC, here's one:

                      Royals:
                      1985: 91-71 (World Champs)
                      1986: 76-86

                      Actually, we've been no better than mediocre since.

                      The Cards from 85-86 was a pretty big dropoff:
                      1985: 101-61
                      1986: 79-82
                      Red, it took me 16 years to get here. Play me, and you'll get the best I got.

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                      • #12
                        Detroit Tigers
                        2003 43-119
                        2004 72-90
                        From horrible to slightly less horrible
                        Chairman Emeritus of the r/baseballHOF

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Redondos
                          Boston Red Sox

                          1945: 71-83 (7th place AL)
                          1946: 104-50 (1st place AL)


                          1966: 72-90 (9th place AL)
                          1967: 92-70 (1st place AL)

                          Chicago Cubs

                          1983: 71-91 (5th place NL East)
                          1984: 96-65 (1st place NL East)
                          Looks like the BoSox were as glad as anyone to see WW2 come to an end

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                          • #14
                            surprised no one's mentioned the '14 braves.

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