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  • Are there any records that will never be broken??

    I think safe records are -

    Young' s 511 wins
    Rose's 4256 hits
    DiMaggio's 56 game hit streak
    Ryan's 7 no-hitters
    Aaron's 2297 RBI
    Henderson's stolen bases; 1406 - career, 130 - season
    Ryan's 5714 strikeouts
    Ripken's 2632 consecutive games

    I think 73 HR in a season may be beat some day.
    I think 755 HR in a career may also one day fall.

    Will we ever see another -
    400 hitter?
    hitting Triple Crown winner?
    30 game winner?

    What say you?

    Any other records that may stand forever?
    Any record you think may fall? By who?
    1968 and 1984, the greatest ever.

  • #2
    Cy Young's 511 wins will never be broken, nor will Cy Young's 749 complete games or Walter Johnson's 110 complete-game shutouts. Use of specialized relief pitchers will not allow so many complete games to be pitched.

    Homeruns? I don't know -- someone may reach 90 or 100 someday (especially if seasons are made even longer). Certainly the 755 career homerun record will be broken, by Bonds or someone else.
    Luke

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    • #3
      Here's a few more:

      Lifetime shutouts - 110 Walter Johnson
      Most triples - 309 Sam Crawford
      Season Triple - 36 Chief Wilson
      Walks Season - 232 Barry Bonds
      Lifetime average - .367 Ty Cobb
      RBIs in a season - 191 Hack Wilson
      Lifetime hits - 4,256 Pete Rose Don't bet on it
      "Batting slumps? I never had one. When a guy hits .358, he doesn't have slumps."

      Rogers Hornsby, 1961

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      • #4
        The records for starting pitchers, i.e. career wins, complete games, shutouts, wins in a season, etc. will not be broken because the game is played differently. Same for batting average records. No one will ever hit .400 unless they are a pure contact hitter, and there aren't any of those currently.

        Hank Aaron's home run record will, unfortunately, be broken by Barry Bonds next year.

        73 home runs in a season will probably be broken someday, though home runs are down around baseball, so it might not be for a while.

        There will be another Triple Crown winner. Pujols is the most likely candidate.

        Aaron's RBI record will eventually be broken - I say A-Rod will do it.

        It's possible that Rose's hits record, Ryan's K record, and Rickey's steals will oneday be topped, but they were unique talents. It takes unique players to set those records. I don't think any current player will approach those records.

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        • #5
          Virtually all those guys broke records that were previously deemed unbreakable.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by abacab
            The records for starting pitchers, i.e. career wins, complete games, shutouts, wins in a season, etc. will not be broken because the game is played differently. Same for batting average records. No one will ever hit .400 unless they are a pure contact hitter, and there aren't any of those currently.

            Hank Aaron's home run record will, unfortunately, be broken by Barry Bonds next year.

            73 home runs in a season will probably be broken someday, though home runs are down around baseball, so it might not be for a while.

            There will be another Triple Crown winner. Pujols is the most likely candidate.

            Aaron's RBI record will eventually be broken - I say A-Rod will do it.

            It's possible that Rose's hits record, Ryan's K record, and Rickey's steals will oneday be topped, but they were unique talents. It takes unique players to set those records. I don't think any current player will approach those records.
            " though home runs are down around baseball "

            Homeruns are NOT down around baseball, I already started a thread proving that theory wrong.

            http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=38699

            Anyway, I think any record is possible breaking, especially any homerun record.

            A record That I dont think we'll ever see is a 50/50 season, 50 homeruns and 50 SB'S.
            Last edited by Dontworry; 02-14-2006, 08:22 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by abacab
              The records for starting pitchers, i.e. career wins, complete games, shutouts, wins in a season, etc. will not be broken because the game is played differently. Same for batting average records. No one will ever hit .400 unless they are a pure contact hitter, and there aren't any of those currently.
              What would you call Ichiro?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dontworry
                A record That I dont think we'll ever see is a 50/50 season, 50 homeruns and 50 SB'S.
                Who exactly has this record?
                Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                • #9
                  I dont see anyone breaking Hack Wilsons 191

                  Manny tried in 99 but missed too many games

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                  • #10
                    I'll start with perhaps the easiest of the ones I'm keeping track of, other than that the game has been going more towards offense. Hershiser's 59 straight shutout innings since Drysdale got within 98% of it in 1968
                    Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RuthMayBond
                      What would you call Ichiro?
                      Oh yeah. Yeah, Ichiro could hit .400, but I don't think he will because he's a leadoff hitter and all those extra PA's lower his chances. Personally I think the single-season hits record is more impressive than hitting .400.

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                      • #12
                        Heres a tip if somebody else has gotten close in the somewhat near past then the record isn't unbreakable.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RuthMayBond
                          Who exactly has this record?
                          No one, and he's saying no one ever will hold that record. Not that it actually is a record, per se.
                          One record I am surprised has not been broken is Bobby Thigpen's single season save record. (57) And I would not be the least bit surprised if the record for home runs in a game (4) is broken in the near future.
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                          • #14
                            You wanna see unbreakable records, look at the 19th century.

                            Duffy's .440
                            Radbourn's 59 wins
                            Hamilton's 192 runs
                            Spalding's 55-5
                            Nicols' 138 SB's
                            Kilroy's 513 K's
                            White's 75 CG's

                            Granted, a completely different kind of game.
                            Last edited by torez77; 02-14-2006, 09:33 AM.
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                            • #15
                              an oft-overlooked but very respectable record is babe ruth's 177 runs scored in 1921. 177 is incredible.
                              "you don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. just get people to stop reading them." -ray bradbury

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