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This document was based on a similar policy used by SABR.

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  • #46
    Then you should be held to a higher standard. Where is a mod to scold you for insult baiting.
    "By common consent, Ruth was the hardest hitter of history; a fine fielder, if not a finished one; an inspired base runner, seeming to do the right thing without thinking. He had the most perfect co-ordination of any human animal I ever knew." - Hugh Fullerton, 1936 (Chicago sports writer, 1893-1930's)

    ROY / ERA+ Title / Cy Young / WS MVP / HR Title / Gold Glove / Comeback POY / BA Title / MVP / All Star / HOF

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948 View Post

      Holy sheet...it goes back to 1908 now?? WOW they've been workin hard over the past few years!!!

      Yeah I'll check on it when I have time. If indeed the trend holds up, something like that could have me moving him back up a slot.
      1907, Sir!

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      • #48
        All right guys, all the personal crap, such as calling others "brick walls" will cease or suspensions will follow.
        Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
        Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
        A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Floyd Gondolli View Post

          If you actually think he always held the bat one way, or that he was a punch and judy hitter like Pete Rose or Ichiro or Eddie Collins?

          All you're proving is that you've literally never actually read anything about Ty Cobb's style and approach to hitting. That is embarrassing!!

          And also that you're ignoring everything about Cobb:

          --Leading ALL players in ISO over the 21 year period. ISO is the best estimate of raw power, as it completely removes batting average from the equation.

          -
          isolated power in the deadball era, when no one hit hrs, may not be the stat of choice
          This week's Giant

          #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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          • #50
            Originally posted by JR Hart View Post

            isolated power in the deadball era, when no one hit hrs, may not be the stat of choice
            What would be? I agree there would be issues but I don't think that there is another stat that would be better.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Floyd Gondolli View Post

              1907, Sir!
              My baseball-reference only goes back to 1908 on the splits data. All good...we can get dang near all of Speaker's, all of Joe Jackson's, and the large majority of Cobb. That's incredible how far back they went.

              Cobb has a 173.0 rrOPS+ from 1908-1928 (170 overall)
              Jackson has a 173.0 rrOPS+ (170 overall)

              Speaker takes a hit..only missing his first impartial season but he goes from a 158 raw OPS+ down to a 150.9 rrOPS+. He's still right there with Mize, Frank Thomas and some other good company, as an upper elite defensive CFer...but that seven point dip would impact his WAR.
              "By common consent, Ruth was the hardest hitter of history; a fine fielder, if not a finished one; an inspired base runner, seeming to do the right thing without thinking. He had the most perfect co-ordination of any human animal I ever knew." - Hugh Fullerton, 1936 (Chicago sports writer, 1893-1930's)

              ROY / ERA+ Title / Cy Young / WS MVP / HR Title / Gold Glove / Comeback POY / BA Title / MVP / All Star / HOF

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              • #52
                Guys used the split grip so that they could delay the point of decision when they would slide the bottom hand up or the top hand down or slide the top hand up to drag bunt.
                "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948 View Post

                  My baseball-reference only goes back to 1908 on the splits data. All good...we can get dang near all of Speaker's, all of Joe Jackson's, and the large majority of Cobb. That's incredible how far back they went.

                  Cobb has a 173.0 rrOPS+ from 1908-1928 (170 overall)
                  Jackson has a 173.0 rrOPS+ (170 overall)

                  Speaker takes a hit..only missing his first impartial season but he goes from a 158 raw OPS+ down to a 150.9 rrOPS+. He's still right there with Mize, Frank Thomas and some other good company, as an upper elite defensive CFer...but that seven point dip would impact his WAR.
                  Retrosheet has splits back to 1907.

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                  • #54
                    Whats the knock on Hornsby, ..358 home and road, in any time period is carrying some heavy wood........................and a RH hitter. I posted a newspaper article on this board some time ago, trying to locate. Ty Cobb who saw Hornsby, early career described his as one of the best hitters he had seen. Also posted some of his long home runs a good number. One striking the the building in centerfield if I recall, Braves Field, only reached by all others a few times.
                    Unfortunate, not Mr. Nice Guy, some posters can't separate his personality from his skill at hitting.

                    Also the knock on him for making the most, transfer from the deadball to the live ball era. "Open to any others", why should he be judged differently.
                    Last edited by SHOELESSJOE3; 07-13-2018, 06:18 PM.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by SHOELESSJOE3 View Post
                      Whats the knock on Hornsby,
                      He was pretty much done by age 33. He had a very good partial year at age 35, but then only occasional at bats after that.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post

                        He was pretty much done by age 33. He had a very good partial year at age 35, but then only occasional at bats after that.
                        Yes, short career, like any others, that works against him. But while in the game, for some years second only to Babe Ruth.
                        And again, some other knocking him for making the change, deadball hitting compared to live ball numbers.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by SHOELESSJOE3 View Post

                          Yes, short career, like any others, that works against him. But while in the game, for some years second only to Babe Ruth.
                          And again, some other knocking him for making the change, deadball hitting compared to live ball numbers.

                          I only posted sited that I thought Cobb could have maintained his relative batting average if he had had live ball conditions and might have topped Hornby’s #2 average by 20 points under the same conditions-easier to see and less deformed balls and more ability to drive the ball.
                          Last edited by brett; 07-13-2018, 07:27 PM.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by brett View Post


                            I only posted sited that I thought Cobb could have maintained his relative batting average if he had had live ball conditions and might have topped Hornby’s #2 average by 20 points under the same conditions-easier to see and less deformed balls and more ability to drive the ball.
                            Too bad, Ty chose to stay with his hitting style when the live ball came in, I would love to have seen that.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by brett View Post


                              I only posted sited that I thought Cobb could have maintained his relative batting average if he had had live ball conditions and might have topped Hornby’s #2 average by 20 points under the same conditions-easier to see and less deformed balls and more ability to drive the ball.
                              Before 1919-1920 as most of us know, beat up balls were left in the game for many innings. Not only beat up, tobacco stained, grass stained and dirt.
                              Spectators for some yeasr, obliged to return balls hit into the seating area. Some clubs would issue a ticket to a game, for returned balls.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by willshad View Post

                                No responses like YOURS are the reason the site has been decreasing in membership. There are a few members on here that are so condescending that any point which does not coincide with their own is dismissed, even if it makes perfect sense.

                                You are the ones who are the 'brick walls'.

                                Quite frankly, I am more of a 'historian' (not to mention more intelligent) than pretty much every member of this site, who range from overly enthusiastic mathematicians, to biased and closed minded 'experts'.

                                Shove THAT up your 'bona fide' XXXXXXX
                                I'm the coolest member of this site. I'm smoking dope and listening to Dave Brubeck right now.
                                "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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