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    I 'm not sure if this has been done, but I we are going to (if you wish) rank each teams top 10, from the 30 current franchises. I will use the definition of the franchise and years as defined in baseball reference. We will go in alphabetical order. Please post your top 10, in order. Please rank players only by their perfprmance on this team.

    up next Cleveland Indians
    Cleveland Indians Team History & Encyclopedia

    Team Names: Cleveland Indians, Cleveland Naps, Cleveland Bronchos, Cleveland Blues

    Seasons: 118 (1901 to 2018)

    Record: 9384-8968, .511 W-L%

    Playoff Appearances: 14

    Pennants: 6

    World Championships: 2


    This week's Giant

    #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

  • #2
    results of other teams so far.

    Arizona Diamondbacks
    1- Randy Johnson
    2- Paul Goldschmidt
    3- Curt Schilling
    4- Brandon Webb
    5- Luis Gonzalez
    6- Steve Finley
    7- A.J. Pollock
    8- Justin Upton
    9- Dan Haren
    10- Zack Grienke
    Atlanta Braves
    1- Hank Aaron
    2-- Warren Spahn
    3 - Eddie Mathews
    4 - Chipper Jones
    5- Greg Maddux
    6- Kid Nichols
    7 - Phil Niekro
    8 - John Smoltz
    9 - Tom Glavine
    10- Al Spalding
    Baltimore Orioles
    1- Cal Ripken 80
    2- Brooks Robinson 68
    3- Jim Palmer 58
    4- George Sisler 52
    5- Eddie Murray 44
    6- Frank Robinson 31
    7- Mike Mussina 31
    8- Bobby Wallace 21
    9- Boog Powell 14
    10- Ken Williams 10
    Boston Red Sox
    1- Ted Williams 100
    2- Carl Yastrzemski 80
    3- Roger Clemens 64
    4 - Wade Boggs 58
    5- Cy Young 58
    6- Pedro Martinez 55
    7- Tris Speaker 39
    8- David Ortiz 31
    9- Dwight Evans 21
    10- Jim Rice 13
    Chicago Cubs
    1- Cap Anson 127
    2- Ernie Banks 124
    3- Ryne Sandberg 91
    4- Ron Santo 84
    5- Ferguson Jenkins 76
    6- Mordecai Brown 75
    7- Billy Williams 62
    8- Sammy Sosa 58
    9 - Gabby Hartnett 47
    10- Pete Alexander 15
    Chicago White Sox
    1-Frank Thomas 189
    2-Luke Appling 176
    3-Ed Walsh 142
    4-Eddie Collins 141
    5-Ted Lyons 108
    6-Red Faber 87
    7-Minnie Minoso 70
    8-Nellie Fox 54
    9-Billy Pierce 44
    10-Paul Konerko 34
    Cincinatti Reds
    1- Johnny Bench 191
    2- Pete Rose 159
    3- Frank Robinson 150
    4- Joe Morgan 142
    5- Barry Larkin 133
    6- Joey Votto 104
    7- Ed Roush 30
    8- Bid McPhee 30
    9- Tony Perez 26
    10- Eppa Rixey 20
    This week's Giant

    #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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    • #3
      Nerdlinger's list

      Cleveland Indians
      1) Nap Lajoie
      2) Tris Speaker
      3) Lou Boudreau
      4) Bob Feller
      5) Kenny Lofton
      6) Larry Doby
      7) Jim Thome
      8) Stan Coveleski
      9) Earl Averill
      10) Bob Lemon

      This week's Giant

      #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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      • #4
        1- Nap Lajoie
        2- Bob Feller
        3- Tris Speaker
        4- Earl Averill
        5- Albert Belle
        6- Lou Boudreau
        7- Stan Coveleski
        8- Bob Lemon
        9- Manny Ramirez
        10- Sam McDowell
        This week's Giant

        #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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        • #5
          1. Napoleon Lajoie
          2. Tris Speaker
          3. Bob Feller-credit for military service
          4. Lou Boudreau
          5. Jim Thome
          6. Kenny Lofton
          7. Larry Doby
          8. Stan Coveleski
          9. Bob Lemon
          10. Earl Averill

          Honorable mention:
          11. Wes Ferrell
          12. Joe Sewell
          13. Sam McDowell
          14. Shoeless Joe Jackson
          15. Addie Joss
          16. Early Wynn
          17. Al Rosen
          18. Corey Kluber
          19. Manny Ramirez
          20. Mel Harder
          21. Gaylord Perry
          22. Albert Belle
          23. Elmer Flick
          24. Grady Sizemore
          25, Francisco Lindor
          26. BIll Bradley
          27. George Uhle
          28. Luis Tianf
          29. Ken Keltner
          30. Hal Trosky
          Last edited by NJRob65; 01-14-2019, 09:52 AM.

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          • #6
            1 Nap Lajoie
            2 Bob Feller
            3 Lou Boudreau
            4 Tris Speaker
            5 Stan Coveleski
            6 Jim Thome
            7 Kenny Lofton
            8 Larry Doby
            9 Earl Averill
            10 Francisco Lindor
            My top 10 players:

            1. Babe Ruth
            2. Barry Bonds
            3. Ty Cobb
            4. Ted Williams
            5. Willie Mays
            6. Alex Rodriguez
            7. Hank Aaron
            8. Honus Wagner
            9. Lou Gehrig
            10. Mickey Mantle

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            • #7
              INDIANS WAR LEADERS

              POSITION PLAYERS

              .
              1 Nap Lajoie 1614 6695 34 865 919 240 6.1 % 3.2 % .113 .309 .339 .388 .452 .403 152 -7.3 370.8 96.7 74.9
              2 Tris Speaker 1519 6628 73 1079 884 151 12.9 % 2.2 % .166 .355 .354 .444 .520 .449 158 2.0 476.8 0.6 72.6
              3 Lou Boudreau 1560 6707 63 823 740 50 11.4 % 4.4 % .119 .305 .296 .382 .416 .376 124 -12.6 176.7 206.2 63.1
              4 Earl Averill 1509 6708 226 1154 1084 66 10.8 % 7.0 % .219 .322 .322 .399 .542 .421 134 -14.1 305.9 -48.0 47.7
              5 Jim Thome 1399 5805 337 928 937 18 17.4 % 24.1 % .279 .337 .287 .414 .566 .417 150 -0.3 378.2 -100.5 46.4
              6 Larry Doby 1235 5082 215 808 776 44 13.8 % 15.8 % .214 .308 .286 .389 .500 .403 140 -2.2 254.7 20.7 45.0
              7 Kenny Lofton 1276 5767 87 975 518 452 10.6 % 11.3 % .126 .327 .300 .375 .426 .355 110 47.5 124.5 115.1 43.1
              8 Joe Sewell 1513 6576 30 857 869 71 9.9 % 1.5 % .105 .322 .320 .398 .425 .385 114 -6.5 113.2 76.5 40.9
              9 Ken Keltner 1513 6280 163 735 850 39 8.1 % 7.5 % .165 .279 .276 .337 .441 .360 110 -8.1 74.2 65.6 36.2
              10 Al Rosen 1044 4374 192 603 717 39 13.4 % 8.8 % .210 .274 .285 .384 .495 .397 138 -2.7 200.4 0.8 35.2
              11 Joe Jackson 674 2852 24 474 353 138 9.4 % 4.8 % .167 .363 .375 .441 .542 .463 176 -2.1 251.2 -27.4 34.0
              12 Bill Bradley 1231 5193 26 649 473 157 4.7 % .100 .272 .317 .372 .330 108 0.4 56.9 94.5 33.9
              13 Terry Turner 1619 6515 8 692 521 254 6.6 % 6.5 % .066 .267 .254 .310 .320 .308 91 5.6 -60.3 164.4 33.7
              14 Elmer Flick 935 4020 19 535 376 207 8.8 % .122 .299 .371 .422 .381 143 11.8 195.6 -32.7 32.7
              15 Hal Trosky 1124 4853 216 758 911 21 9.3 % 7.7 % .238 .304 .313 .379 .551 .415 131 -5.9 208.0 -63.9 30.8
              16 Manny Ramirez 967 4095 236 665 804 28 13.2 % 19.0 % .279 .340 .313 .407 .592 .422 150 -5.2 267.1 -88.8 30.6
              17 Grady Sizemore 892 4047 139 601 458 134 10.6 % 20.2 % .204 .312 .269 .357 .473 .359 120 35.5 137.2 31.6 30.2
              18 Ray Chapman 1051 4590 17 671 364 233 9.8 % 9.3 % .099 .309 .278 .358 .377 .356 111 13.1 69.2 34.1 28.9
              19 Omar Vizquel 1478 6542 60 906 584 279 9.4 % 9.0 % .096 .304 .283 .352 .379 .328 92 25.1 -38.7 95.1 27.6
              20 Albert Belle 913 3925 242 592 751 61 10.1 % 15.8 % .285 .295 .295 .369 .580 .404 145 1.3 229.5 -80.6 27.5
              21 Jeff Heath 957 3875 122 546 619 52 9.4 % 11.3 % .208 .313 .298 .366 .506 .399 134 -7.3 154.3 -32.4 26.6
              22 Rocky Colavito 913 3700 190 464 574 9 12.6 % 12.9 % .227 .260 .267 .361 .495 .375 137 -2.8 156.9 -27.4 25.3
              23 Bobby Avila 1207 5037 74 688 442 75 10.5 % 7.0 % .108 .295 .284 .362 .392 .348 109 -1.8 54.0 25.1 25.0
              24 Francisco Lindor 574 2590 98 377 310 71 8.3 % 13.8 % .199 .302 .288 .350 .487 .355 120 6.0 68.5 67.1 22.8
              25 Carlos Santana 1116 4782 174 573 587 40 15.2 % 17.0 % .196 .270 .249 .365 .445 .353 123 -13.7 112.2 -52.8 22.7
              .
              .
              PITCHERS
              .
              1 Bob Feller 266 162 21 570 484 3827.0 6.07 4.15 0.53 .264 74.0 % 3.25 3.48 62.6
              2 Mel Harder 223 186 23 582 433 3426.1 3.05 2.94 0.42 .287 68.0 % 3.80 3.87 47.6
              3 Sam McDowell 122 109 11 336 295 2109.2 9.21 4.57 0.59 .268 75.9 % 2.99 2.93 45.6
              4 Stan Coveleski 172 123 20 360 305 2502.1 3.08 2.22 0.19 .275 70.3 % 2.80 3.04 43.7
              5 Mike Garcia 142 96 21 397 281 2138.0 4.61 2.93 0.50 .279 73.8 % 3.24 3.18 40.2
              6 Willis Hudlin 157 151 31 475 320 2557.2 2.33 2.93 0.38 .293 64.9 % 4.34 4.13 35.0
              7 Corey Kluber 96 55 0 201 196 1306.0 9.81 1.91 0.88 .296 75.2 % 44.8 % 11.3 % 3.09 2.96 3.02 34.4
              8 Addie Joss 160 97 5 286 260 2327.0 3.56 1.41 0.07 .249 69.3 % 1.89 2.17 33.9
              9 Early Wynn 164 102 10 343 296 2286.2 5.03 3.45 0.71 .256 75.1 % 3.24 3.55 33.4
              10 George Uhle 147 119 15 357 267 2200.1 3.12 2.90 0.24 .295 66.6 % 3.92 3.70 32.4
              11 Bob Lemon 207 128 22 460 350 2850.0 4.03 3.95 0.57 .255 74.2 % 3.23 3.79 32.3
              12 Charles Nagy 129 103 0 313 297 1942.1 5.72 2.70 1.01 .310 70.0 % 41.9 % 16.4 % 4.51 4.20 4.72 30.7
              13 CC Sabathia 106 71 0 237 237 1528.2 7.45 2.93 0.85 .292 72.0 % 43.8 % 8.8 % 3.83 3.72 3.89 30.2
              14 Guy Morton 98 88 6 317 185 1629.2 4.58 3.22 0.15 .281 66.0 % 3.13 2.87 26.4
              15 Jim Bagby 122 85 26 290 201 1735.2 2.20 2.20 0.20 .279 69.7 % 3.02 3.12 23.1

              .


              19th Century League Champion
              1900s League Champion
              1910s League Champion

              1930s League Division Winner
              1950s League Champion
              1960 Strat-O-Matic League Regular Season Winner
              1960s League Division Winner
              1970s League Champion
              1971 Strat-O-Matic League Runner Up
              1980s League Champion
              All Time Greats League Champion

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              • #8
                1 - Lajoie
                2 - Feller
                3 - Speaker
                4 - Boudreau
                5 - Averill
                6 - Doby
                7 - Coveleski
                8 - Harder
                9 - McDowell
                10 - Thome
                .


                19th Century League Champion
                1900s League Champion
                1910s League Champion

                1930s League Division Winner
                1950s League Champion
                1960 Strat-O-Matic League Regular Season Winner
                1960s League Division Winner
                1970s League Champion
                1971 Strat-O-Matic League Runner Up
                1980s League Champion
                All Time Greats League Champion

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                • #9
                  1. Lajoie
                  2. Feller
                  3. Speaker
                  4. Boudreau
                  5. Harder
                  6. Averill
                  7. Doby
                  8. Coveleski
                  9. Lofton
                  10. Lemon

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                  • #10
                    As a side note, Bob Lemon was a heck of a hitter, whose offense isn't captured in the above WAR chart.
                    Since its that time of year
                    Do they still play the blues in Chicago, when baseball season rolls around?
                    When the snow melts away, do the Chi-Sox still play, in horribly named burial ground?


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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Toledo Inquisition View Post
                      As a side note, Bob Lemon was a heck of a hitter, whose offense isn't captured in the above WAR chart.
                      I take it that Thome will be on your list
                      This week's Giant

                      #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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                      • #12
                        take another look at 5 time strikeout champ Sam McDowell

                        He had a great peak

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                        Last edited by JR Hart; 01-14-2019, 08:36 PM.
                        This week's Giant

                        #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JR Hart View Post

                          I take it that Thome will be on your list
                          I hope so, but only if he is one of the 10 best after I do my rankings. I try not to play favorites, and many of Thome's fine years were with the Phillies and White Sox. The Indians have been blessed with many great players who played forever with them over the years, and Thome only had 9 years with them as a regular. My rough idea now is that he will be, but I'm trying not to be hasty.

                          Mixing pitchers and hitters on a list like this complicates it immensely, as 10 years as a pitcher doesn't necessarily equate with 10 years as a hitter.

                          I'm happy to see Earl Averill rated highly on some ballots. I've always felt he has been somewhat overlooked in history of that era. I feel that if he had either come to the league earlier or not had the mid-30's injury, he'd have become a legendary figure. Just one of the two circumstances, not both, and he'd be remembered with Jimmie Foxx and Al Simmons by the baseball community.
                          Last edited by Toledo Inquisition; 01-14-2019, 10:07 AM.
                          Since its that time of year
                          Do they still play the blues in Chicago, when baseball season rolls around?
                          When the snow melts away, do the Chi-Sox still play, in horribly named burial ground?


                          Play the Who am I? game in trivia and you can make this signature line yours for 3 days (baseball signatures only!)

                          Go here for a link to all player links! http://www.baseball-fever.com/forum/...player-threads

                          Go here for all your 1920's/1930's OF info

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Toledo Inquisition View Post
                            As a side note, Bob Lemon was a heck of a hitter, whose offense isn't captured in the above WAR chart.
                            Lemon debuted in the majors as a third basemen . He has a fangraphs hitting WAR of 9.5. He fares better with baseball-reference with a 37.8 pitching WAR & a 10.4 hitting WAR. He has a 14.2 pitching WAA & a 10.0 batting WAA. Lemon has a 144 pitching RAA & a 100 batting RAA.

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                            • #15
                              1. Tris Speaker
                              2. Nap Lajoie
                              3. Lou Boudreau
                              4. Bob Feller
                              5. Stan Coveleski
                              6. Jim Thome
                              7. Wes Ferrell
                              8. Elmer Flick
                              9. Kenny Lofton
                              10. Larry Doby

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