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  • #16
    Originally posted by Mongoose View Post
    I'm going to go against the grain here. Mathewson might have been the best pitcher in NL history. Mays is the best player of the past 70 years, but I'll choose Mathewson over him because he was the face of the franchise during its most successful and glamorous era. His celebrity transcended baseball. He was chosen as a charter Hall of Famer over Cy Young. He is greatly underrated now.

    I love Willie Mays, but seeing so many choose Mathewson fourth, I feel it necessary to make a statement about Mathewson's value.

    Christy Mathewson
    Willie Mays
    Mel Ott
    Carl Hubbell
    Barry Bonds
    Willie McCovey
    Juan Marichal
    Bill Terry
    Roger Connor
    Amos Rusie/Freddie Fitzsimmons
    Christy belongs no lower than 3rd I had him 3rd.

    Btw, the list after yours doesn't have Mathewson in the top 10. That would be original HOF class Christy Mathewson. Christy has been drastically downgraded on this site for years. I rank him the 2nd best pitcher ever. Going against Mays and Bonds is tough. What other team has 2 all time top 4 players?
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    #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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    • #17
      Originally posted by JR Hart View Post

      Christy belongs no lower than 3rd I had him 3rd.

      Btw, the list after yours doesn't have Mathewson in the top 10. That would be original HOF class Christy Mathewson. Christy has been drastically downgraded on this site for years. I rank him the 2nd best pitcher ever. Going against Mays and Bonds is tough. What other team has 2 all time top 4 players?
      I'm sorry -- I don't care one stick about a guy who pitched from 1900-1916. MLB back then was like the minor leagues or amateur leagues now. (don't want to get in a long discussion about this again)

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      • #18
        Originally posted by JR Hart View Post

        Christy belongs no lower than 3rd I had him 3rd.

        Btw, the list after yours doesn't have Mathewson in the top 10. That would be original HOF class Christy Mathewson. Christy has been drastically downgraded on this site for years. I rank him the 2nd best pitcher ever. Going against Mays and Bonds is tough. What other team has 2 all time top 4 players?
        I'm a big fan of Christy's...I just think he's behind Walter, Cy Young and Lefty Grove - I don't think that too shabby on my account.

        Originally posted by redban View Post

        I'm sorry -- I don't care one stick about a guy who pitched from 1900-1916. MLB back then was like the minor leagues or amateur leagues now. (don't want to get in a long discussion about this again)
        I won't argue, but I'll just ask if you have a significant skill (LQ) jump from the 1900's-1910's to the 1920's-1930's (because I see you have Terry and Hubbell)?
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        • #19
          Originally posted by redban View Post

          I'm sorry -- I don't care one stick about a guy who pitched from 1900-1916. MLB back then was like the minor leagues or amateur leagues now. (don't want to get in a long discussion about this again)
          Neither do I. Some people don't list alleged PED users, you don't like that era. It all adds to the variety of this project.
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          #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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          • #20
            1 Barry Bonds
            2 Willie Mays
            3 Christy Mathewson
            4 Mel Ott
            5 Carl Hubbell
            6 Willie McCovey
            7 Bill Terry
            8 Johnny Mize
            9 Juan Marichal
            10 Jeff Kent
            Last edited by GiambiJuice; 05-17-2019, 02:41 PM.
            My top 10 players:

            1. Babe Ruth
            2. Barry Bonds
            3. Ty Cobb
            4. Ted Williams
            5. Willie Mays
            6. Alex Rodriguez
            7. Hank Aaron
            8. Honus Wagner
            9. Lou Gehrig
            10. Mickey Mantle

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            • #21
              1. Mays
              2. BaBonds
              3. Mathewson- basically a tossup with
              4. Ott
              5. Hubbell- almost a dead heat with
              6. Marichal- almost a dead heat with
              7. McCovey
              8. Terry
              9. Connor- slight downgrade due to era
              10. Posey

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              • #22
                1. Willie Mays
                2. Barry Bonds
                3. Mel Ott
                4. Christy Mathewson - less about downgrading Christy as the thought that Ott was inner-circle.
                5. Roger Connor
                6. Carl Hubbell
                7. Juan Marichal
                8. Willie McCovey
                9. Buster Posey
                10. Amos Rusie
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                • #23
                  Updated my list. Replaced Will Clark with Johnny Mize.
                  My top 10 players:

                  1. Babe Ruth
                  2. Barry Bonds
                  3. Ty Cobb
                  4. Ted Williams
                  5. Willie Mays
                  6. Alex Rodriguez
                  7. Hank Aaron
                  8. Honus Wagner
                  9. Lou Gehrig
                  10. Mickey Mantle

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Jar of Flies View Post
                    1. Willie Mays
                    2. Barry Bonds
                    3. Mel Ott
                    4. Christy Mathewson - less about downgrading Christy as the thought that Ott was inner-circle.
                    5. Roger Connor
                    6. Carl Hubbell
                    7. Juan Marichal
                    8. Willie McCovey
                    9. Buster Posey
                    10. Amos Rusie
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                    • #25
                      1- Willie Mays
                      2- Barry Bonds
                      3- Christy Mathewson
                      4- Mel Ott
                      5- Carl Hubbell
                      6- Willie McCovey
                      7- Juan Marichal
                      8- Amos Rusie
                      9- Buster Posey
                      10- Roger Connor
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                      • #26
                        1. Willie Mays
                        2. Barry Bonds
                        3. Christy Mathewson
                        4. Mel Ott
                        5. Carl Hubbell
                        6. Juan Marichal
                        7. Buster Posey
                        8. Willie McCovey
                        9. Tim Keefe
                        10. Roger Connor
                        "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by redban View Post

                          I'm sorry -- I don't care one stick about a guy who pitched from 1900-1916. MLB back then was like the minor leagues or amateur leagues now. (don't want to get in a long discussion about this again)
                          Preposterous

                          "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                          • #28
                            1. Willie Mays
                            2. Barry Bonds
                            3. Christy Mathewson
                            4. Mel Ott
                            5. Amos Rusie
                            6. Carl Hubbell
                            7. Juan Marichal
                            8. Roger Connor
                            9. Willie McCovey
                            10. Buster Posey

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                            • #29
                              1. Willie Mays
                              2. Christy Mathewson
                              3. Barry Bonds
                              4. Mel Ott
                              5. Juan Marichal
                              6. Bill Terry
                              7. Willie McCovey
                              8. Amos Rusie
                              9. Buster Posey
                              10. Will Clark

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                              • #30
                                Finally, the one team I was waiting to vote for. :-)

                                1. Willie Mays
                                2. Barry Bonds
                                3. Christy Matthewson
                                4. Mel Ott
                                5. Willie McCovey
                                6. Carl Hubbell
                                7. Juan Marichal
                                8. Bill Terry
                                9. Buster Posey
                                10. Roger Connor


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