each franchise top 10>>>>San Francisco Giants

[Bothrops Atrox]

1. Willie Mays
2. Barry Bonds
3. Christy Mathewson
4. Mel Ott
5. Roger Connor
6. Juan Marichal
7. Willie McCovey
8. Carl Hubbell
9. Art Fletcher
10. Buster Posey

Folks! We found another anti-Russie conspirator! Batten down the hatches!

[Stieb37]

1. Willie Mays
2. Barry Bonds
3. Christy Mathewson
4. Mel Ott
5. Roger Connor
6. Juan Marichal
7. Willie McCovey
8. Carl Hubbell
9. Art Fletcher
10. Buster Posey

[Mongoose]

'The Alpha & Omega' Jesus 'H.' Christ of Nazareth ≥ 'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson
'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson > Mel Ott, yawn
'Gentleman' Tim 'Smiling Tim' Keefe from Cambridge > Amos 'the Hoosier Thunderbolt' Rusie

Mathewson was way better than Ott for real. Mathewson is a giant of the game in a way Ott doesn't sniff. I think Jouette Meekin was considered faster than Rusie on his own club. Far less successful of course. Rusie isn't even ten years older than Mathewson.

I agree Mathewson was a giant of the game, but Ott was almost as great. He stacks up pretty well to Stan Musial (OPS+ 155 to OPS+ 159), and is an inner circle HOFer. Ott had to share a city with Ruth, Gehrig and DiMaggio, so his fame suffered. John McGraw kept him on the Giants at 17 because he didn't want any Minor League instructors to touch his swing, which McGraw considered perfect. He was a a prodigy. Ott is underrated, and I chose him over Bonds because Ott was probably the superior talent before Bonds started using PEDs.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

'The Alpha & Omega' Jesus 'H.' Christ of Nazareth ≥ 'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson
'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson > Mel Ott, yawn
'Gentleman' Tim 'Smiling Tim' Keefe from Cambridge > Amos 'the Hoosier Thunderbolt' Rusie

Mathewson was way better than Ott for real. Mathewson is a giant of the game in a way Ott doesn't sniff. I think Jouette Meekin was considered faster than Rusie on his own club. Far less successful of course. Rusie isn't even ten years older than Mathewson.

This is why I have Christy Matthewson as the Giants all time #1 starting pitcher which all due respect to Juan Marichal and Carl Hubbell.

[bluesky5]

'The Alpha & Omega' Jesus 'H.' Christ of Nazareth ≥ 'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson
'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson > Mel Ott, yawn
'Gentleman' Tim 'Smiling Tim' Keefe from Cambridge > Amos 'the Hoosier Thunderbolt' Rusie

Mathewson was way better than Ott for real. Mathewson is a giant of the game in a way Ott doesn't sniff. I think Jouette Meekin was considered faster than Rusie on his own club. Far less successful of course. Rusie isn't even ten years older than Mathewson.

[dgarza]

1. Barry Bonds
2. Willie Mays
3. Christy Mathewson
4. Amos Rusie
5. Mel Ott
6. Willie McCovey
7. Roger Connor
8. Mickey Welch
9. Bill Terry
10. Carl Hubbell

[Bothrops Atrox]

Haha. Ya know I had to Google "Hoosier Thunderbolt".

So did I.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

You know, I always did peg you as the petty type.

Haha. Ya know I had to Google "Hoosier Thunderbolt".

[Bothrops Atrox]

Exactly....

You know, I always did peg you as the petty type.

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Why?

So you could leave out The Hoosier Thunderbolt?

Exactly....

[Bothrops Atrox]

I can't take responsibility for the ignorance of many of our members here on the site.

So you have him 8th and I had him 11th. Not really a gap worthy of one proclaiming the other person's ignorance. There is not much separating 8 from 11 or 12.

[SavoyBG]

He is 10/18 so far. Maybe 9/18 (depending on Mongoose's tie breaker at #10)

Not exactly an extremist take.

I can't take responsibility for the ignorance of many of our members here on the site.

[Bothrops Atrox]

Why?

So you could leave out The Hoosier Thunderbolt?

He is 10/18 so far. Maybe 9/18 (depending on Mongoose's tie breaker at #10)

Not exactly an extremist take.

[SavoyBG]

Finally, the one team I was waiting to vote for. :-)

Why?

So you could leave out The Hoosier Thunderbolt?

[Honus Wagner Rules]

Finally, the one team I was waiting to vote for. :-)

1. Willie Mays
2. Barry Bonds
3. Christy Matthewson
4. Mel Ott
5. Willie McCovey
6. Carl Hubbell
7. Juan Marichal
8. Bill Terry
9. Buster Posey
10. Roger Connor