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  • #31
    Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
    Finally, the one team I was waiting to vote for. :-)
    Why?

    So you could leave out The Hoosier Thunderbolt?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post

      Why?

      So you could leave out The Hoosier Thunderbolt?
      He is 10/18 so far. Maybe 9/18 (depending on Mongoose's tie breaker at #10)

      Not exactly an extremist take.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bothrops Atrox View Post

        He is 10/18 so far. Maybe 9/18 (depending on Mongoose's tie breaker at #10)

        Not exactly an extremist take.
        I can't take responsibility for the ignorance of many of our members here on the site.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post

          I can't take responsibility for the ignorance of many of our members here on the site.
          So you have him 8th and I had him 11th. Not really a gap worthy of one proclaiming the other person's ignorance. There is not much separating 8 from 11 or 12.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post

            Why?

            So you could leave out The Hoosier Thunderbolt?
            Exactly....
            Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post

              Exactly....
              You know, I always did peg you as the petty type.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bothrops Atrox View Post

                You know, I always did peg you as the petty type.
                Haha. Ya know I had to Google "Hoosier Thunderbolt".
                Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 05-19-2019, 09:33 PM.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post

                  Haha. Ya know I had to Google "Hoosier Thunderbolt".
                  So did I.
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                  • #39
                    1. Barry Bonds
                    2. Willie Mays
                    3. Christy Mathewson
                    4. Amos Rusie
                    5. Mel Ott
                    6. Willie McCovey
                    7. Roger Connor
                    8. Mickey Welch
                    9. Bill Terry
                    10. Carl Hubbell

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                    • #40
                      'The Alpha & Omega' Jesus 'H.' Christ of Nazareth ≥ 'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson
                      'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson > Mel Ott, yawn
                      'Gentleman' Tim 'Smiling Tim' Keefe from Cambridge > Amos 'the Hoosier Thunderbolt' Rusie

                      Mathewson was way better than Ott for real. Mathewson is a giant of the game in a way Ott doesn't sniff. I think Jouette Meekin was considered faster than Rusie on his own club. Far less successful of course. Rusie isn't even ten years older than Mathewson.
                      "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
                        'The Alpha & Omega' Jesus 'H.' Christ of Nazareth ≥ 'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson
                        'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson > Mel Ott, yawn
                        'Gentleman' Tim 'Smiling Tim' Keefe from Cambridge > Amos 'the Hoosier Thunderbolt' Rusie

                        Mathewson was way better than Ott for real. Mathewson is a giant of the game in a way Ott doesn't sniff. I think Jouette Meekin was considered faster than Rusie on his own club. Far less successful of course. Rusie isn't even ten years older than Mathewson.
                        This is vwhy I have Christy Matthewson as the Giants all time #1 starting pitcher which all due respect to Juan Marichal and Carl Hubbell.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
                          'The Alpha & Omega' Jesus 'H.' Christ of Nazareth ≥ 'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson
                          'The Christian Gentleman' Christy 'Big 6' Mathewson > Mel Ott, yawn
                          'Gentleman' Tim 'Smiling Tim' Keefe from Cambridge > Amos 'the Hoosier Thunderbolt' Rusie

                          Mathewson was way better than Ott for real. Mathewson is a giant of the game in a way Ott doesn't sniff. I think Jouette Meekin was considered faster than Rusie on his own club. Far less successful of course. Rusie isn't even ten years older than Mathewson.
                          I agree Mathewson was a giant of the game, but Ott was almost as great. He stacks up pretty well to Stan Musial (OPS+ 155 to OPS+ 159), and is an inner circle HOFer. Ott had to share a city with Ruth, Gehrig and DiMaggio, so his fame suffered. John McGraw kept him on the Giants at 17 because he didn't want any Minor League instructors to touch his swing, which McGraw considered perfect. He was a a prodigy. Ott is underrated, and I chose him over Bonds because Ott was probably the superior talent before Bonds started using PEDs.


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                          • #43
                            1. Willie Mays
                            2. Barry Bonds
                            3. Christy Mathewson
                            4. Mel Ott
                            5. Roger Connor
                            6. Juan Marichal
                            7. Willie McCovey
                            8. Carl Hubbell
                            9. Art Fletcher
                            10. Buster Posey

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Stieb37 View Post
                              1. Willie Mays
                              2. Barry Bonds
                              3. Christy Mathewson
                              4. Mel Ott
                              5. Roger Connor
                              6. Juan Marichal
                              7. Willie McCovey
                              8. Carl Hubbell
                              9. Art Fletcher
                              10. Buster Posey
                              Folks! We found another anti-Russie conspirator! Batten down the hatches!
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bothrops Atrox View Post

                                Folks! We found another anti-Russie conspirator! Batten down the hatches!
                                Supposedly Fidel Castro tried out for the Giants.
                                "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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