Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

The 2010s - Players of the Decade

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Stolensingle
    replied
    This is interesting. A panel of former and current players make their selections for all-decade team:

    Our panel consisted of:

    • Former MVP first baseman Ryan Howard
    • Former All-Star outfielder Vernon Wells
    • Former All-Star outfielder Cliff Floyd
    • A’s shortstop Marcus Semien, a member of this year’s All-MLB team
    • Padres closer Kirby Yates, a member of this year’s All-MLB team
    • Current D-backs pitcher Kevin Ginkel
    • Current Dodgers infielder/outfielder Matt Beaty
    https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-all-dec...195800845.html

    Leave a comment:


  • Cougar
    replied
    Originally posted by Stolensingle View Post

    He won a WS in 2016. He was a rookie the year before. IOW, he played only half the decade. It's pretty hard to be one of the best players of a decade when you only play half of it. Betts might be a fair choice, but that's because he's a genuine 5-tool player who had one season for the ages.

    In fact, identifying the best players of the decade is difficult, not only because so many of the very best players haven't played the full decade, but you also need to have some of your best years line up with the calendar. E.g., Papi was clearly the best DH for a long time, but he retired in 2016, so also missed about half of that decade.
    That's a fair criticism of Bryant, but you omitted the preceding paragraph in your quote box, where I pointed out that Cespedes only played five full seasons this decade too.

    So if that's roughly equivalent, then pretty much every other way I look at it, Bryant > Yoenis.

    Leave a comment:


  • Stolensingle
    replied
    Originally posted by Cougar View Post

    Meanwhile, Bryant won a MVP, a ROY, and was probably the best player on a Cubs team that won the freakin' World Series.

    I'll repeat that: THE CUBS! WON! THE WORLD SERIES! THE CUBS!!!

    We've all had a few years to acclimate to that, but we shouldn't forget what a big deal it was/is.
    He won a WS in 2016. He was a rookie the year before. IOW, he played only half the decade. It's pretty hard to be one of the best players of a decade when you only play half of it. Betts might be a fair choice, but that's because he's a genuine 5-tool player who had one season for the ages.

    In fact, identifying the best players of the decade is difficult, not only because so many of the very best players haven't played the full decade, but you also need to have some of your best years line up with the calendar. E.g., Papi was clearly the best DH for a long time, but he retired in 2016, so also missed about half of that decade.

    Leave a comment:


  • Cougar
    replied
    Originally posted by 1905 Giants View Post
    I reeally wanted to try to make a case for Felix, but then we have his crashing and burning to deal with.
    If we went to fifteen with starting pitchers, King Felix would be there for sure.

    Other thoughts on pitchers:

    David Price had a pretty solid decade too, definitely in the second ten.

    Did Sabathia do enough this decade to rate? Probably not...things got pretty rocky for him this decade after the first few seasons. But if his whole career enters in at all...

    Jake Arrieta only had about a three year peak mid-decade, but it was an awfully good one.

    Mariano Rivera only pitched through 2013, but I'd still put him in the decade's top 5 relievers, I think.

    Leave a comment:


  • Cougar
    replied
    Great list!

    I'll strongly second Brian McCann over Carlos Ruiz, and probably over Realmuto too.

    That's my only major quibble...the choice of Ruiz, even merely in the #5 slot, really is a head scratcher for me. He really only had a couple of seasons that were even much above average.

    McCann did do his best work in the decade previous, but he was still pretty solid throughout most of this one. An elite pitch framer too, if you're into that kind of thing. (And I think you are.)

    -------------

    One other modest proposal: I really want to get Kris Bryant in there, but third base is stacked. Maybe squeeze him into left field?

    Yoenis Cespedes has had some nice moments, but he's only played 100 games (or even 82) in five seasons of his career so far, two of them split between multiple teams. He's definitely a hard guy for a Mets fan to love, that's for sure.

    Meanwhile, Bryant won a MVP, a ROY, and was probably the best player on a Cubs team that won the freakin' World Series.

    I'll repeat that: THE CUBS! WON! THE WORLD SERIES! THE CUBS!!!

    We've all had a few years to acclimate to that, but we shouldn't forget what a big deal it was/is.
    Last edited by Cougar; 12-25-2019, 08:14 PM.

    Leave a comment:


  • Stolensingle
    replied
    Mike Oz's choice:

    C - Posey
    1B - Cabrera
    2B - Cano
    SS - Simmons
    3B - Beltre
    OF - Trout, Betts, McCutchen
    DH - Cruz
    SP - Scherzer, Verlander, Kershaw
    RP - Kimbrel, Chapman

    https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-all-dec...182117983.html

    Leave a comment:


  • bluesky5
    replied
    Originally posted by BigRon View Post

    Oh yeah- I forgot.
    We should order a pizza.

    Leave a comment:


  • BigRon
    replied
    Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post

    I burned that out.
    Oh yeah- I forgot.

    Leave a comment:


  • bluesky5
    replied
    Originally posted by BigRon View Post

    Or was it your brain?
    I burned that out.

    Leave a comment:


  • BigRon
    replied
    Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
    I would have been player of the decade if I hadn't blown out my knee.
    Or was it your brain?

    Leave a comment:


  • Stolensingle
    replied
    Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
    My team of choice:

    Starting Lineup
    1. R Jose Altuve - 4
    2. R Mookie Betts - 7
    3. L Joey Votto - 3
    4. R Mike Trout - 8
    5. R Miguel Cabrera - 5
    6. S Frankie Lindor - 6
    7. L Bryce Harper - 9
    8. R Yadier Molina - 2
    9. L/L Clayton Kershaw - 1

    Bench
    R Buster Posey - C/1B
    L David Ortiz - DH/1B
    R Adrian Beltre - CIF
    R Mike Stanton - COF
    L Christian Yelich - OF
    S Ben Zobrist - UT

    Pitchers
    R Justin Verlander
    R Max Scherzer
    L Madison Bumgarner
    R Adam Wainwright
    R Stephen Strasburg
    R Corey Kluber
    L Chris Sale
    L Andrew Miller
    R Craig Kimbrel
    L Aroldis Chapman
    Good list, but Cabrera is a difficult one for me. He should be at 1B--he only played 3B for four full seasons--but then you have to leave off Votto. You could put him at DH, if you have that as a starting position. Then Beltre at 3B.

    Again, Stanton is Giancarlo.

    Leave a comment:


  • bluesky5
    replied
    My team of choice:

    Starting Lineup
    1. R Jose Altuve - 4
    2. R Mookie Betts - 7
    3. L Joey Votto - 3
    4. R Mike Trout - 8
    5. R Miguel Cabrera - 5
    6. S Frankie Lindor - 6
    7. L Bryce Harper - 9
    8. R Yadier Molina - 2
    9. L/L Clayton Kershaw - 1

    Bench
    R Buster Posey - C/1B
    L David Ortiz - DH/1B
    R Adrian Beltre - CIF
    R Mike Stanton - COF
    L Christian Yelich - OF
    S Ben Zobrist - UT

    Pitchers
    R Justin Verlander
    R Max Scherzer
    L Madison Bumgarner
    R Adam Wainwright
    R Stephen Strasburg
    R Corey Kluber
    L Chris Sale
    L Andrew Miller
    R Craig Kimbrel
    L Aroldis Chapman

    Leave a comment:


  • GiambiJuice
    replied
    Originally posted by Chadwick View Post
    Absolutely. Did you notice, by the way, that Lindor was well ahead of Seager in the shortstop ranking?
    Whoops, I missed that. My bad.

    Leave a comment:


  • Chadwick
    replied
    Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    Lindor >>> Seager
    Absolutely. Did you notice, by the way, that Lindor was well ahead of Seager in the shortstop ranking?

    Leave a comment:


  • GiambiJuice
    replied
    Lindor >>> Seager

    Leave a comment:

Ad Widget

Collapse
Working...
X