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  • 2019 BBF Top 100 Position Players of All Time #51-55

    1. Babe Ruth
    2. Willie Mays
    3. Ty Cobb
    4. Barry Bonds
    5. Honus Wagner
    6. Ted Williams
    7. Hank Aaron
    8. Stan Musial
    9. Rogers Hornsby
    10. Tris Speaker
    11. Lou Gehrig
    12. Mickey Mantle
    13. Alex Rodriguez
    14. Joe DiMaggio
    15. Mike Schmidt
    16. Albert Pujols
    17. Eddie Collins
    18. Frank Robinson
    19. Rickey Henderson
    20. Oscar Charleston
    21. Jimmie Foxx
    22. Mel Ott
    23. Nap Lajoie
    24. Eddie Mathews
    25. Johnny Bench
    26. Joe Morgan
    27. Josh Gibson
    28. Ken Griffey Jr.
    29. Mike Piazza
    30. Jackie Robinson
    31. George Brett
    32. Roberto Clemente
    33. Cal Ripken Jr.
    34. Cap Anson
    35. Mike Trout
    36. Carl Yastrzemski
    37. Al Kaline
    38. Dan Brouthers
    39. Yogi Berra
    40. Charlie Gehringer
    41. Jeff Bagwell
    42. Chipper Jones
    43. Johnny Mize
    44. Pop Lloyd
    45. Arky Vaughan
    46. Wade Boggs - 28
    47. Ed Delahanty - 25
    48. Gary Carter - 23
    49. Reggie Jackson - 21
    50. Adrian Beltre - 17

    Others:


    Connor - 15
    Rose - 12
    Carew - 10
    Thome - 10
    Hamilton - 9
    Thomas - 6
    Dickey - 5
    Ivan - 5
    A bunch of people with 1-4

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    Rod Carew
    Roger Connor
    Luke Appling
    George Davis
    Carlton Fisk

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    The Top 100 Pitchers In MLB History
    The Top 100 Position Players In MLB History

  • #2
    1. Jim Thome
    2. Sammy Sosa
    3. Roger Connor
    4. Pete Rose
    5. Rod Carew

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    • #3
      1. Rod Carew
      2. Hank Greenberg-credit for military service
      3. Larry Walker
      4. Carlton Fisk
      5. Luke Appling

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      • #4
        Roger Connor
        Billy Hamilton
        Harry Heilmann
        Willie Keeler
        Joe Kelley (food for thought)
        “There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil.” Walter Lippmann

        "I don't care if the guy is yellow or black, or if he has stripes like a ******* zebra. I'm the manager of this team and I say he [Robinson] plays." - Leo Durocher

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        • #5
          Rod Carew
          Pete Rose
          Frankie Frisch- gains seven Wins using better baserunning metrics and a 2 to 1 TZ/DRA split. A much better choice than Appling imo whose best year came in a weakened league
          Robin Yount
          Brooks Robinson
          Last edited by layson27; 11-01-2019, 09:17 PM.

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          • #6
            1. Pudge Rodriguez
            2. Miguel Cabrera
            3. Ernie Banks
            4. Derek Jeter
            5. Roy Campanella

            Originally posted by John Shoemaker View Post
            1. Jim Thome
            2. Sammy Sosa
            3. Roger Connor
            4. Pete Rose
            5. Rod Carew
            Originally posted by 1905 Giants View Post
            Roger Connor
            Billy Hamilton
            Harry Heilmann
            Willie Keeler
            Joe Kelley (food for thought)
            I love both these ballots.

            Originally posted by layson27 View Post
            Frankie Frisch- gains seven Wins using better baserunning metrics and a 2 to 1 TZ/DRA split. A much better choice than Appling imo whose best year came in a weakened league
            You made me check on these two and I have Frisch just a couple spots ahead of Appling.
            Last edited by bluesky5; 11-01-2019, 10:30 PM.
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            • #7
              Billy Hamilton
              Vlad Guerrero
              Rod Carew
              Joe Cronin
              Derek Jeter

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              • #8
                1. Shoeless Joe Jackson
                2. Roger Connor
                3. Luke Appling
                4. Rod Carew
                5. Pete Rose
                "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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                • #9
                  1. Roger Connor
                  2. Joe Jackson
                  3. Rod Carew
                  4. Ernie Banks
                  5. Sam Crawford

                  Snider was close.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by layson27 View Post
                    Rod Carew
                    Pete Rose
                    Frankie Frisch- gains seven Wins using better baserunning metrics and a 2 to 1 TZ/DRA split. A much better choice than Appling imo whose best year came in a weakened league
                    Robin Yount
                    Brooks Robinson
                    Take Keeler or Kelley over B. Robinson anyday.
                    “There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil.” Walter Lippmann

                    "I don't care if the guy is yellow or black, or if he has stripes like a ******* zebra. I'm the manager of this team and I say he [Robinson] plays." - Leo Durocher

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 1905 Giants View Post

                      Take Keeler or Kelley over B. Robinson anyday.
                      Love Keeler, but have always thought Brooks should be ranked pretty close to Boggs & Chipper.

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                      • #12
                        1. Jim Thome
                        2. Frank Thomas
                        3. Luke Appling
                        4. Sam Crawford
                        5. Harry Heilmann

                        I have a suspicion I'm going to be voting for the same five guys for a while...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Toledo Inquisition View Post
                          1. Jim Thome
                          2. Frank Thomas
                          3. Luke Appling
                          4. Sam Crawford
                          5. Harry Heilmann

                          I have a suspicion I'm going to be voting for the same five guys for a while...
                          Thought you might have taken Frisch and/or Waner over Appling as they were both much bigger stars (as I'm sure you're well aware ).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by layson27 View Post

                            Thought you might have taken Frisch and/or Waner over Appling as they were both much bigger stars (as I'm sure you're well aware ).
                            I believe Appling's defense is underrated, and combining that with his BA and OBP, along with in the service for two year during WWII, gives him a very high rating for me. He was basically a 3.5 tool player...lack of power was his only issue. Well, he was only a C+ baserunner too.

                            I'm sure I'll get heat, but I think he was definitely superior to quite a few guys listed in the top 50 above.
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                            • #15
                              1. Roger Connor
                              2. Carlton Fisk
                              3. Willie Wells - He's at ~95 WAR in the latest Hall of Miller and Eric MLEs, so for the middle infield fans, please take a close look at this guy. I'm not taking the 95 at face value, as that's the highest I've seen, but he's worthy considering.
                              4. Pee Wee Reese
                              5. Bill Dickey

                              Would like to poll the group on Greenberg, raw totals suggest he's at this level or higher with prime or peak war credit.
                              But...he's very poor in clutch and gained significant home park advantages.
                              Where does everyone have Hank?

                              Hank Greenberg, George Davis, Robin Yount, Barry Larkin, Frankie Frisch, and Joe Gordon are among others I'm considering for the 5th slot.

                              ...And is Buck Ewing under consideration soon for anyone, trying to gauge how much to credit for his catching split.
                              Last edited by Jar of Flies; 11-02-2019, 02:27 PM.
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