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  • New pitchers list: Mathewson passes Seaver. Greinke and Verlander swap. A few guys drop up a spot or down a spot. No pitcher moves in or out.
    # Pitcher PARC-D
    1 Walter Johnson 321
    2 Roger Clemens 299
    3 Cy Young 296
    4 Pete Alexander 225
    5 Lefty Grove 224
    6 Christy Matheson 217
    7 Tom Seaver 214
    8 Randy Johbson 209
    9 Kid Nichols 207
    10 Greg Maddux 201
    11 Warren Spahn 190
    12 Bob Gibson 178
    13 Pedro Martinez 169
    14 Eddie Plank 162
    15 Bert Blyleven 160
    16 Phil Niekro 158
    17 Curt Schilling 156
    18 Steve Carlton 153
    19 Mike Mussina 153
    20 Bob Feller 150
    21 Fergie Jenkins 143
    22 Tom Glavine 142
    23 Robin Roberts 140
    24 Mariano Rivera 137
    25 Gaylord Perry 136
    26 John Clarkson 131
    27 Justin Verlander 130
    28 Zack Greinke 129
    29 Tim Keefe 128
    30 Clayton Kershaw 128
    31 Ed Walsh 128
    32 Max Scherzer 127
    33 John Smoltz 126
    34 Carl Hubbell 124
    35 Roy Halladay 124
    36 Jim Palmer 122
    37 Hal Newhouser 118
    38 David Cone 115
    39 Nolan Ryan 113
    40 Rick Reuschel 112
    41 Wes Ferrell 112
    42 Ted Lyons 111
    43 Kevin Brown 111
    44 Luis Tiant 111
    45 Juan Marichal 111
    46 Dennis Eckersley 111
    47 Old Hoss Radbourn 110
    48 Cole Hamels 110
    49 Whitey Ford 110
    50 Stan Coveleski 110
    51 Red Ruffing 109
    52 Andy Pettitte 108
    53 Bret Saberhagen 108
    54 Rube Waddell 108
    55 Jim Bunning 106
    56 Dazzy Vance 106
    57 Bob Caruthers 106
    58 Mordecai Brown 105
    59 Urban Shocker 104
    60 Eddie Cicotte 104
    61 Vic Willis 103
    62 Joe McGinnity 103
    63 Don Drysdale 102
    64 Amos Rusie 102
    65 Dave Stieb 101
    66 Jim McCormick 100
    67 Charlie Buffinton 100
    68 CC Sabathia 99
    69 Red Faber 98
    70 George Uhle 98
    71 Tommy Bond 97
    72 Kevin Appier 97
    73 Clark Griffith 96
    74 Babe Adams 96
    75 Al Spalding 96
    76 Tony Mullane 93
    77 Tommy John 93
    78 Sandy Koufax 93
    79 Pud Galvin 92
    80 Johan Santana 92
    81 Chris Sale 91
    82 Bob Lemon 89
    83 Nap Rucker 89
    84 Dizzy Dean 89
    85 Billy Pierce 88
    86 Jimmy Key 88
    87 Hoyt Wilhelm 88
    88 Early Wynn 87
    89 Frank Tanana 87
    90 Jack Quinn 87
    91 Chuck Finley 87
    92 Orel Hershiser 87
    93 Dwight Gooden 87
    94 Tommy Bridges 87
    95 Dizzy Trout 87
    96 Tim Hudson 86
    87 David Wells 86
    98 Bucky Walters 86
    99 Roy Oswalt 86
    100 Eddie Rommell 86
    Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 03-16-2020, 08:07 PM.
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    • Rank Player Parc-D
      1 Babe Ruth 393
      2 Barry Bonds 346
      3 Willie Mays 337
      4 Ted Williams 322
      5 Ty Cobb 320
      6 Hank Aaron 283
      7 Tris Speaker 278
      8 Rogers Hornsby 274
      9 Honus Wagner 270
      10 Stan Musial 258
      11 Lou Gerhig 245
      12 Eddie Collins 243
      13 Mickey Mantle 230
      14 Alex Rodriguez 227
      15 Rickey Henderson 222
      16 Mike Schmidt 216
      17 Nap Lajoie 206
      18 Mel Ott 204
      19 Joe Dimaggio 201
      20 Albert Pujols 197
      21 Jimmie Foxx 188
      22 Joe Morgan 188
      23 Eddie Mathews 186
      24 Roberto Clemente 186
      25 Johnny Bench 186
      26 Frank Robinson 178
      27 Gary Carter 177
      28 Cal Ripken Jr. 175
      29 George Brett 167
      30 Cap Anson 165
      31 Al Kaline 164
      32 Johnny Mize 164
      33 Mike Trout 163
      34 Carl Yastrzemski 156
      35 Wade Boggs 156
      36 Roger Connor 156
      37 Dan Brouthers 156
      38 Adrian Beltre 154
      39 Rod Carew 154
      40 Luke Appling 153
      41 Carlton Fisk 153
      42 Charlie Gerhinger 152
      43 Jeff Bagwell 148
      44 George Davis 148
      45 Yogi Berra 147
      46 Arky Vaughan 144
      47 Mike Piazza 144
      48 Bill Dickey 144
      49 Chipper Jones 142
      50 Pee Wee Reese 141
      51 Jackie Robinson 141
      52 Ken Griffey Jr. 140
      53 Joe Gordon 137
      54 Pete Rose 136
      55 Ed Delahanty 136
      56 Frankie Frisch 135
      57 Barry Larkin 135
      58 Gabby Hartnett 135
      59 Robin Yount 134
      60 Ivan Rodriguez 133
      61 Hank Greenebrg 132
      62 Bill Dahlen 131
      63 Lou Whitaker 131
      64 Paul Waner 131
      65 Bobby Grich 131
      66 Miguel Cabrera 131
      67 Ozzie Smith 130
      68 Larry Walker 130
      69 Brooks Robinson 129
      70 Joe Jackson 129
      71 Reggie Jackson 128
      72 Alan Trammel 128
      73 Bobby Wallace 128
      74 Tony Gwynn 127
      75 Harry Heilmann 127
      76 Carlos Beltran 126
      77 Lou Boudreau 125
      78 Scott Rolen 125
      79 Goose Goslin 123
      80 Fred Clarke 123
      81 Tim Raines 123
      82 Paul Molitor 122
      83 Derek Jeter 122
      84 Al Simmons 122
      85 Billy Hamilton 122
      86 Joey Votto 122
      87 Joe Mauer 122
      88 Edgar Martnez 121
      89 Kenny Lofton 120
      90 Frank Baker 120
      91 Roy Campanella 120
      92 Frank Thomas 119
      93 Buck Ewing 118
      94 Roberto Alomar 117
      95 Jack Glasscock 117
      96 Bill Terry 117
      97 Chase Utley 117
      98 Ryne Sandberg 116
      99 Robinson Cano 116
      100 Keith Hernandez 116
      101 Thurman Munson 116
      102 Yadier Molina 116
      103 Willie McCovey 115
      104 Andruw Jones 115
      105 Manny Ramirez 113
      106 Duke Snider 113
      107 Jim Thome 112
      108 Sam Crawford 112
      109 Ernie Banks 112
      110 Jim Edmonds 112
      111 Mickey Cochrane 112
      112 Rafael Palmiero 111
      113 Joe Cronin 111
      114 Eddie Murray 110
      115 Ron Santo 110
      116 George Sisler 110
      117 Buster Posey 110
      118 Willie Randolph 109
      119 Ken Boyer 109
      120 Ichiro Suzuki 109
      121 Joe Torre 109
      122 Jim Sundberg 109
      123 Buster Posey 109
      124 Dwight Evans 108
      125 Craig Biggio 108
      126 Buddy Bell 108
      127 Richie Ashburn 108
      128 Todd Helton 108
      129 Reggie Smith 108
      130 Charlie Keller 108
      131 Ted Simmons 108
      132 Willie Davis 107
      133 Enos Slaughter 107
      134 Jesse Burkett 106
      135 Billy Williams 106
      136 Darrell Evans 106
      137 John Olerud 103
      138 Joe Tinker 103
      139 Andre Dawson 102
      140 Will Clark 102
      141 Minnie Minnoso 102
      142 Larry Doby 102
      143 Wally Schang 102
      144 Bobby Bonds 101
      145 Billy Herman 101
      146 Dick Allen 100
      147 Dave Winfield 99
      148 Mark McGwire 99
      149 Lance Berkman 99
      150 King Kelly 99
      151 Sal Bando 98
      152 Vlad Guerrero 98
      153 Jim Wynn 98
      154 Elmer Flick 98
      155 Sherry Magee 97
      156 Jose Cruz Jr. 97
      157 John Ward 97
      158 Jake Beckely 97
      159 Max Carey 97
      160 Harry Hooper 97
      161 Gary Sheffiled 96
      162 Zack Wheat 95
      163 Evan Longoria 95
      164 Harmon Killebrew 94
      165 Bobby Abreu 94
      166 Graig Nettles 93
      167 Jimmy Collins 93
      168 Cesar Cedeno 92
      169 Bill Freehan 92
      170 Roger Bresnahan 91
      171 Charlie Bennett 91
      172 Willie Keeler 90
      173 Bert Campernaris 90
      174 Bid McPhee 90
      175 Ralph Kiner 90
      176 Wille Stargell 89
      177 Sammy Sosa 89
      178 Bernie Williams 89
      179 Jeff Kent 88
      180 Tony Phillips 88
      181 Jimmie Sheckard 88
      182 Roy White 88
      183 Ron Cey 87
      184 Kirby Puckett 87
      185 Joe Kelley 87
      186 Bobby Doerr 87
      187 Bobby Veach 87
      188 Art Fletcher 87
      189 Frank Chance 87
      190 David Wright 87
      191 Jason Giambi 87
      192 Chet Lemon 86
      193 David Ortiz 86
      194 Tony Perez 86
      195 Bob Johnson 86
      196 Joe Sewell 86
      197 Dustin Pedroia 86
      198 Dave Bancroft 86
      199 Tommy Leach 86
      200 Brian McCann 86
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      • That was fast, and thanks, hopefully I can swing a revamp of my B-R WAR slice this year.
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        • Originally posted by Jar of Flies View Post
          That was fast, and thanks, hopefully I can swing a revamp of my B-R WAR slice this year.
          There weren't all that many notable changes. Beltre down 4...Votto and Longoria up 4. Nobody else up or down more than 1-2.

          Of course, there may be some differences in their pre-1940 adjustments and the ones I originally included, but they would be marginal. There is no way I can isolate the exact DP/baserunning changes they made so I will just have to stick with the changes I made.

          In other words, my PARC-D numbers for position players prior to 1940 may be off slightly from what they would-be if I started overusing this 2020 update - but not enough to make any practical dent.

          Also for pitchers - BBRef talks about adjusting for the opposition and personalized parks, but do not list parks in their Mathewson example. Plus, I don't think what they are doing is aligned with what I did using brett and Sultan's model. So I THINK I am good with pitchers. Again, if I am off - it would be by MAYBE 1 PARC-D for a handful of pitchers.
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          • Originally posted by Bothrops Atrox View Post

            There weren't all that many notable changes. Beltre down 4...Votto and Longoria up 4. Nobody else up or down more than 1-2.

            Of course, there may be some differences in their pre-1940 adjustments and the ones I originally included, but they would be marginal. There is no way I can isolate the exact DP/baserunning changes they made so I will just have to stick with the changes I made.

            In other words, my PARC-D numbers for position players prior to 1940 may be off slightly from what they would-be if I started overusing this 2020 update - but not enough to make any practical dent.

            Also for pitchers - BBRef talks about adjusting for the opposition and personalized parks, but do not list parks in their Mathewson example. Plus, I don't think what they are doing is aligned with what I did using brett and Sultan's model. So I THINK I am good with pitchers. Again, if I am off - it would be by MAYBE 1 PARC-D for a handful of pitchers.
            Longoria moves further away from the fringe, hopefully can add some career bulk to nudge past the 100 line
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            • Originally posted by Jar of Flies View Post
              On mobile and can't find where to start a thread, so bumping this one up, new Baseball-Reference WAR updates that will have some impact on PARC-d...https://www.sports-reference.com/blo...20-war-update/
              They still have the same TZ for the early live ball era Outfielders though. Hopefully that will be updated at some point.

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              • Finally got organized enough to list all pitchers with 65 or more PARC-D:
                # Pitcher PARC-D
                1 Walter Johnson 321
                2 Roger Clemens 299
                3 Cy Young 296
                4 Pete Alexander 225
                5 Lefty Grove 224
                6 Christy Mathewson 217
                7 Tom Seaver 214
                8 Randy Johnson 209
                9 Kid Nichols 207
                10 Greg Maddux 201
                11 Warren Spahn 190
                12 Bob Gibson 178
                13 Pedro Martinez 169
                14 Eddie Plank 162
                15 Bert Blyleven 160
                16 Phil Niekro 158
                17 Curt Schilling 156
                18 Steve Carlton 153
                19 Mike Mussina 153
                20 Bob Feller 150
                21 Fergie Jenkins 143
                22 Tom Glavine 142
                23 Robin Roberts 140
                24 Mariano Rivera 137
                25 Gaylord Perry 136
                26 John Clarkson 131
                27 Justin Verlander 130
                28 Zack Greinke 129
                29 Tim Keefe 128
                30 Clayton Kershaw 128
                31 Ed Walsh 128
                32 Max Scherzer 127
                33 John Smoltz 126
                34 Carl Hubbell 124
                35 Roy Halladay 124
                36 Jim Palmer 122
                37 Hal Newhouser 118
                38 David Cone 115
                39 Nolan Ryan 113
                40 Rick Reuschel 112
                41 Cole Hamels 112
                42 Wes Ferrell 112
                43 Ted Lyons 111
                44 Kevin Brown 111
                45 Luis Tiant 111
                45 Juan Marichal 111
                47 Dennis Eckersley 111
                48 Old Hoss Radbourn 110
                49 Stan Coveleski 110
                50 Whitey Ford 110
                51 Red Ruffing 109
                52 Andy Pettitte 108
                53 Bret Saberhagen 108
                54 Rube Waddell 108
                55 Jim Bunning 106
                56 Dazzy Vance 106
                57 Bob Caruthers 106
                58 Mordecai Brown 105
                59 Urban Shocker 104
                60 Eddie Cicotte 104
                61 Vic Willis 103
                62 Joe McGinnity 103
                63 Don Drysdale 102
                64 Amos Rusie 102
                65 Dave Stieb 101
                66 Jim McCormick 100
                67 Charlie Buffinton 100
                68 CC Sabathia 99
                69 Red Faber 98
                70 George Uhle 98
                71 Tommy Bond 97
                72 Kevin Appier 97
                73 Clark Griffith 96
                74 Babe Adams 96
                75 Al Spalding 96
                76 Tony Mullane 93
                77 Tommy John 93
                78 Sandy Koufax 93
                79 Pud Galvin 92
                80 Johan Santana 92
                81 Chris Sale 91
                82 Bob Lemon 89
                83 Nap Rucker 89
                84 Dizzy Dean 89
                85 Billy Pierce 88
                86 Jimmy Key 88
                87 Hoyt Wilhelm 88
                88 Early Wynn 87
                89 Jack Quinn 87
                90 Chuck Finley 87
                91 Frank Tanana 87
                92 Orel Hershiser 87
                93 Dwight Gooden 87
                94 Tommy Bridges 87
                95 Dizzy Trout 87
                96 Tim Hudson 86
                87 David Wells 86
                98 Bucky Walters 86
                99 Roy Oswalt 86
                100 Eddie Rommell 86
                101 Noodles Hahn 86
                102 Felix Hernandez 85
                103 Hippo Vaughan 85
                104 Don Sutton 84
                105 Mark Buehrle 84
                106 Wilbur Cooper 84
                107 Jerry Koosman 84
                108 Carl Mays 84
                109 Mickey Lolich 84
                110 Frank Viola 84
                111 Jon Lester 84
                112 Silver King 83
                113 Mark Langston 83
                114 Wilbur Wood 82
                115 Ron Guidry 82
                116 Carlos Zambrano 82
                117 Cliff Lee 82
                118 Rich Gossage 82
                119 Don Newcombe 82
                120 Jim Whitney 81
                121 Al Orth 81
                122 Burleigh Grimes 80
                123 Dolph Luque 80
                124 Waite Hoyt 77
                125 Larry Jackson 77
                126 Harry Brecheen 77
                127 Joe Wood 77
                128 Addie Joss 76
                129 Virgil Trucks 76
                130 Ted Breitenstein 75
                131 Lon Warneke 75
                132 Mickey Welch 74
                133 Herb Pennock 73
                134 Doc White 72
                135 Bartolo Colon 72
                136 Jack Stivetts 72
                137 Sam McDowell 72
                138 Bob Shawkey 71
                139 Jack Powell 70
                140 Jesse Tannehill 70
                141 Jacob deGrom 70
                142 Eppa Rixey 69
                143 Jim Kaat 69
                144 Jose Rijo 69
                145 Chief Bender 68
                146 Vida Blue 68
                147 Bobby Shantz 68
                148 Javier Vazquez 67
                149 Murry Dickson 67
                150 Jack Chesbro 67
                151 Brandon Webb 67
                155 Kenny Rogers 66
                153 Claude Passeau 66
                154 Red Lucas 66
                155 Mel Harder 66
                156 Jack Morris 66
                Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 03-27-2020, 01:34 PM.
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                • Guys I'm curious on that are showing below top 155:
                  Vida Blue
                  Steve Rogers - poor clutch , though brief but excellent post-seasons.
                  Dennis Martinez
                  Fernando Valenzuela
                  Adam Wainwright

                  Thank you sir!
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                  • Originally posted by Jar of Flies View Post
                    Guys I'm curious on that are showing below top 155:
                    Vida Blue
                    Steve Rogers - poor clutch , though brief but excellent post-seasons.
                    Dennis Martinez
                    Fernando Valenzuela
                    Adam Wainwright

                    Thank you sir!
                    Rogers is at 60. Very poor clutch. Only 3.5 WA3 to start with.
                    Blue is at 59. VERY poor park effects. Only 15 WAA to start
                    Dennis Martinez is at 64. Meh park effects. Only stared with 1.8 WA3 to begin with. Only 14 WAA to start.
                    Valenzueal is at 60. Terrible Park effects. Only starts with 0.3 pitching WA3. I mean he never had higher than 5.5 WAR in any give season. Ony 12 WAA to start.
                    Wainwright is at 64. Terrible park effects. So many completely missed seasons due to injuries.
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                    The Top 100 Position Players In MLB History

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                    • Originally posted by Jar of Flies View Post
                      Guys I'm curious on that are showing below top 155:
                      Vida Blue
                      Steve Rogers - poor clutch , though brief but excellent post-seasons.
                      Dennis Martinez
                      Fernando Valenzuela
                      Adam Wainwright

                      Thank you sir!
                      There are probably 100 pitchers between 50 and 70 PARC-D. It is almost impossible to separate pitchers after 70 PARC-D.
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                      • Originally posted by Bothrops Atrox View Post

                        Rogers is at 60. Very poor clutch. Only 3.5 WA3 to start with.
                        Blue is at 59. VERY poor park effects. Only 15 WAA to start
                        Dennis Martinez is at 64. Meh park effects. Only stared with 1.8 WA3 to begin with. Only 14 WAA to start.
                        Valenzueal is at 60. Terrible Park effects. Only starts with 0.3 pitching WA3. I mean he never had higher than 5.5 WAR in any give season. Ony 12 WAA to start.
                        Wainwright is at 64. Terrible park effects. So many completely missed seasons due to injuries.
                        Interesting, Rogers I figured on clutch, the others guys are dinged by parks.

                        Looking at your first post, you are including negative seasons and not zeroing them out?
                        This is a marginal impact on Rogers at end of career, Vida hit 3x and 1 mid-career, Martinez 4x and 2 mid-career, Valenzuela not much, Wainwright no.
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                        • Originally posted by Jar of Flies View Post

                          Interesting, Rogers I figured on clutch, the others guys are dinged by parks.

                          Looking at your first post, you are including negative seasons and not zeroing them out?
                          This is a marginal impact on Rogers at end of career, Vida hit 3x and 1 mid-career, Martinez 4x and 2 mid-career, Valenzuela not much, Wainwright no.
                          I made mistakes with Blue and Rogers. He is at 68 PARC-D. I forgot to add his clutch score. Rogers is at 61 (rounding error).

                          I AM including negative scores. I can see the case for ignoring them - but they were real seasons that cost real teams real games.

                          Keep in mind Rogers also lost about 3 PARC-D for framing (Carter). With normal framing and clutch, he would be in the mid-70's.
                          Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 03-27-2020, 01:34 PM.
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                          • This is a phenomenal effort Matt. I love it.
                            "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                            • Pitcher park effects adjusted slightly - the ranges were DRASTICALLY skewed towards guys getting hurt by parks compared to helped. This is just capping how much a pitcher can be hurt.
                              # Pitcher PARC-D
                              1 Walter Johnson 321
                              2 Roger Clemens 299
                              3 Cy Young 296
                              4 Pete Alexander 225
                              5 Lefty Grove 224
                              6 Christy Mathewson 217
                              7 Tom Seaver 214
                              8 Randy Johnson 209
                              9 Kid Nichols 207
                              10 Greg Maddux 201
                              11 Warren Spahn 192
                              12 Bob Gibson 178
                              13 Pedro Martinez 169
                              14 Eddie Plank 162
                              15 Bert Blyleven 160
                              16 Phil Niekro 158
                              17 Curt Schilling 156
                              18 Steve Carlton 153
                              19 Mike Mussina 153
                              20 Bob Feller 151
                              21 Fergie Jenkins 143
                              22 Robin Roberts 142
                              23 Tom Glavine 142
                              24 Mariano Rivera 137
                              25 Gaylord Perry 136
                              26 John Clarkson 131
                              27 Justin Verlander 130
                              28 Zack Greinke 129
                              29 Tim Keefe 128
                              30 Clayton Kershaw 128
                              31 Ed Walsh 128
                              32 Max Scherzer 127
                              33 John Smoltz 126
                              34 Carl Hubbell 124
                              35 Roy Halladay 124
                              36 Jim Palmer 122
                              37 Hal Newhouser 118
                              38 Nolan Ryan 115
                              39 David Cone 115
                              40 Kevin Brown 113
                              41 Rick Reuschel 112
                              42 Cole Hamels 112
                              43 Wes Ferrell 112
                              44 Ted Lyons 111
                              45 Red Ruffing 111
                              46 Luis Tiant 111
                              45 Juan Marichal 111
                              47 Dennis Eckersley 111
                              48 Old Hoss Radbourn 110
                              49 Stan Coveleski 110
                              50 Whitey Ford 110
                              52 Andy Pettitte 108
                              53 Bret Saberhagen 108
                              54 Rube Waddell 108
                              55 Jim Bunning 106
                              56 Dazzy Vance 106
                              57 Bob Caruthers 106
                              58 Mordecai Brown 105
                              59 Urban Shocker 104
                              60 Eddie Cicotte 104
                              61 Vic Willis 103
                              62 Joe McGinnity 103
                              63 Don Drysdale 102
                              64 Amos Rusie 102
                              65 Dave Stieb 101
                              66 Jim McCormick 100
                              67 Charlie Buffinton 100
                              68 CC Sabathia 99
                              69 Red Faber 98
                              70 George Uhle 98
                              71 Tommy Bond 97
                              72 Kevin Appier 97
                              73 Clark Griffith 96
                              74 Babe Adams 96
                              75 Al Spalding 96
                              76 Tony Mullane 93
                              77 Tommy John 93
                              78 Sandy Koufax 93
                              79 Pud Galvin 92
                              80 Johan Santana 92
                              81 Chris Sale 91
                              82 Early Wynn 89
                              83 Orel Hershiser 89
                              84 Bob Lemon 89
                              85 Nap Rucker 89
                              86 Dizzy Dean 89
                              87 Billy Pierce 88
                              88 Jimmy Key 88
                              89 Hoyt Wilhelm 88
                              90 Jack Quinn 87
                              91 Chuck Finley 87
                              92 Frank Tanana 87
                              93 Dwight Gooden 87
                              94 Tommy Bridges 87
                              95 Dizzy Trout 87
                              96 Tim Hudson 86
                              87 David Wells 86
                              98 Bucky Walters 86
                              99 Roy Oswalt 86
                              100 Eddie Rommell 86
                              101 Noodles Hahn 86
                              102 Felix Hernandez 85
                              103 Hippo Vaughan 85
                              104 Don Sutton 84
                              105 Mark Buehrle 84
                              106 Wilbur Cooper 84
                              107 Jerry Koosman 84
                              108 Carl Mays 84
                              109 Mickey Lolich 84
                              110 Frank Viola 84
                              111 Jon Lester 84
                              112 Silver King 83
                              113 Mark Langston 83
                              114 Wilbur Wood 82
                              115 Ron Guidry 82
                              116 Carlos Zambrano 82
                              117 Cliff Lee 82
                              118 Rich Gossage 82
                              119 Don Newcombe 82
                              120 Jim Whitney 81
                              121 Al Orth 81
                              122 Burleigh Grimes 80
                              123 Dolph Luque 80
                              124 Waite Hoyt 77
                              125 Larry Jackson 77
                              126 Harry Brecheen 77
                              127 Joe Wood 77
                              128 Addie Joss 76
                              129 Virgil Trucks 76
                              130 Ted Breitenstein 75
                              131 Lon Warneke 75
                              132 Mickey Welch 74
                              133 Herb Pennock 73
                              134 Doc White 72
                              135 Bartolo Colon 72
                              136 Jack Stivetts 72
                              137 Sam McDowell 72
                              138 Bob Shawkey 71
                              139 Jack Powell 70
                              140 Jesse Tannehill 70
                              141 Vida Blue 70
                              142 Jacob deGrom 70
                              143 Eppa Rixey 69
                              144 Jim Kaat 69
                              145 Jose Rijo 69
                              146 Chief Bender 68
                              147 Bobby Shantz 68
                              148 Adam Wainwright 68
                              149 Javier Vazquez 67
                              150 Murry Dickson 67
                              151 Jack Chesbro 67
                              152 Brandon Webb 67
                              153 Kenny Rogers 66
                              154 Claude Passeau 66
                              155 Red Lucas 66
                              156 Mel Harder 66
                              157 Jack Morris 66
                              Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 04-29-2020, 04:39 PM.
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                              • Pitchers starting careers since 2000 with over 60 PARC-D:

                                1. Verlander - 130
                                2. Greinke - 129
                                3. Kershaw - 128
                                4. Scherzer - 127
                                5. Hamels - 112
                                6. Sabathia - 99
                                7. Santana - 92
                                8. Sale - 91
                                9. Oswalt - 86
                                10. Hernandez - 85
                                11. Lester - 84
                                12. Buehrle - 84
                                13. Lee - 82
                                14. Zambrano - 82
                                15. deGrom - 70
                                16. Wainwright - 68
                                17. Webb - 67
                                18. Bumgarner - 63
                                19. Beckett- 63
                                20. Price - 61
                                21. Strasburg - 61

                                Kluber, Cueto, Carpenter, Peavy, Lackey, Haren, and Wever are all in the 50's

                                Hudson (86), Vazquez (67), and Colon (72) missed by 1,2, and 3 seasons of eligibility, respectively.
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