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  • 2019-2020 BBF Top 75 Position Pitchers of All-Time #1-5

    All are welcome to participate. Just rate your top 5 pitchers of all time, no restrictions at all. We're going to be doing increments up to 75.

    If anyone has a question, please ask or see the recent position players poll for examples.


    My top five pitchers of all time

    1. Walter Johnson
    2. Cy Young
    3. Lefty Grove
    4. Christy Mathewson
    5. Pete Alexander

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  • #2
    PARC-D >65 (for reference purposes)

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    # Pitcher PARC-D
    1 Walter Johnson 321
    2 Roger Clemens 299
    3 Cy Young 296
    4 Pete Alexander 225
    5 Lefty Grove 224
    6 Christy Mathewson 217
    7 Tom Seaver 214
    8 Randy Johnson 209
    9 Kid Nichols 207
    10 Greg Maddux 201
    11 Warren Spahn 190
    12 Bob Gibson 178
    13 Pedro Martinez 169
    14 Eddie Plank 162
    15 Bert Blyleven 160
    16 Phil Niekro 158
    17 Curt Schilling 156
    18 Steve Carlton 153
    19 Mike Mussina 153
    20 Bob Feller 150
    21 Fergie Jenkins 143
    22 Tom Glavine 142
    23 Robin Roberts 140
    24 Mariano Rivera 137
    25 Gaylord Perry 136
    26 John Clarkson 131
    27 Justin Verlander 130
    28 Zack Greinke 129
    29 Tim Keefe 128
    30 Clayton Kershaw 128
    31 Ed Walsh 128
    32 Max Scherzer 127
    33 John Smoltz 126
    34 Carl Hubbell 124
    35 Roy Halladay 124
    36 Jim Palmer 122
    37 Hal Newhouser 118
    38 David Cone 115
    39 Nolan Ryan 113
    40 Rick Reuschel 112
    41 Cole Hamels 112
    42 Wes Ferrell 112
    43 Ted Lyons 111
    44 Kevin Brown 111
    45 Luis Tiant 111
    45 Juan Marichal 111
    47 Dennis Eckersley 111
    48 Old Hoss Radbourn 110
    49 Stan Coveleski 110
    50 Whitey Ford 110
    51 Red Ruffing 109
    52 Andy Pettitte 108
    53 Bret Saberhagen 108
    54 Rube Waddell 108
    55 Jim Bunning 106
    56 Dazzy Vance 106
    57 Bob Caruthers 106
    58 Mordecai Brown 105
    59 Urban Shocker 104
    60 Eddie Cicotte 104
    61 Vic Willis 103
    62 Joe McGinnity 103
    63 Don Drysdale 102
    64 Amos Rusie 102
    65 Dave Stieb 101
    66 Jim McCormick 100
    67 Charlie Buffinton 100
    68 CC Sabathia 99
    69 Red Faber 98
    70 George Uhle 98
    71 Tommy Bond 97
    72 Kevin Appier 97
    73 Clark Griffith 96
    74 Babe Adams 96
    75 Al Spalding 96
    76 Tony Mullane 93
    77 Tommy John 93
    78 Sandy Koufax 93
    79 Pud Galvin 92
    80 Johan Santana 92
    81 Chris Sale 91
    82 Bob Lemon 89
    83 Nap Rucker 89
    84 Dizzy Dean 89
    85 Billy Pierce 88
    86 Jimmy Key 88
    87 Hoyt Wilhelm 88
    88 Early Wynn 87
    89 Jack Quinn 87
    90 Chuck Finley 87
    91 Frank Tanana 87
    92 Orel Hershiser 87
    93 Dwight Gooden 87
    94 Tommy Bridges 87
    95 Dizzy Trout 87
    96 Tim Hudson 86
    87 David Wells 86
    98 Bucky Walters 86
    99 Roy Oswalt 86
    100 Eddie Rommell 86
    101 Noodles Hahn 86
    102 Felix Hernandez 85
    103 Hippo Vaughan 85
    104 Don Sutton 84
    105 Mark Buehrle 84
    106 Wilbur Cooper 84
    107 Jerry Koosman 84
    108 Carl Mays 84
    109 Mickey Lolich 84
    110 Frank Viola 84
    111 Jon Lester 84
    112 Silver King 83
    113 Mark Langston 83
    114 Wilbur Wood 82
    115 Ron Guidry 82
    116 Carlos Zambrano 82
    117 Cliff Lee 82
    118 Rich Gossage 82
    119 Don Newcombe 82
    120 Jim Whitney 81
    121 Al Orth 81
    122 Burleigh Grimes 80
    123 Dolph Luque 80
    124 Waite Hoyt 77
    125 Larry Jackson 77
    126 Harry Brecheen 77
    127 Joe Wood 77
    128 Addie Joss 76
    129 Virgil Trucks 76
    130 Ted Breitenstein 75
    131 Lon Warneke 75
    132 Mickey Welch 74
    133 Herb Pennock 73
    134 Doc White 72
    135 Bartolo Colon 72
    136 Jack Stivetts 72
    137 Sam McDowell 72
    138 Bob Shawkey 71
    139 Jack Powell 70
    140 Jesse Tannehill 70
    141 Jacob deGrom 70
    142 Eppa Rixey 69
    143 Jim Kaat 69
    144 Jose Rijo 69
    145 Chief Bender 68
    146 Vida Blue 68
    147 Bobby Shantz 68
    148 Javier Vazquez 67
    149 Murry Dickson 67
    150 Jack Chesbro 67
    151 Brandon Webb 67
    155 Kenny Rogers 66
    153 Claude Passeau 66
    154 Red Lucas 66
    155 Mel Harder 66
    156 Jack Morris 66
    Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 03-27-2020, 01:35 PM.
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    • #3
      1. Walter Johnson
      2. Roger Clemens
      3. Cy Young
      4. Lefty Grove
      5. Tom Seaver
      1885 1886 1926 1931 1934 1942 1944 1946 1964 1967 1982 2006 2011

      1887 1888 1928 1930 1943 1968 1985 1987 2004 2013

      1996 2000 2001 2002 2005 2009 2012 2014 2015


      The Top 100 Pitchers In MLB History
      The Top 100 Position Players In MLB History

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      • #4
        My Top five:

        1. Walter Johnson
        2. Roger Clemens
        3. Cy Young
        4. Grover Cleveland Alexander
        5. Lefty Grove

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        • #5
          1) Greg Maddux
          2) Walter Johnson
          3) Cy Young
          4) Kid Nichols
          5) Lefty Grove
          “There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil.” Walter Lippmann

          "I don't care if the guy is yellow or black, or if he has stripes like a ******* zebra. I'm the manager of this team and I say he [Robinson] plays." - Leo Durocher

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          • #6
            1. Walter Johnson
            2. Lefty Grove
            3. Greg Maddux
            4. Cy Young
            5. Roger Clemens

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            • #7
              1. Greg Maddux
              2. Walter Johnson
              3. Lefty Grove
              4. Cy Young
              5. Grover Alexander
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              - Sammy Sosa

              "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
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              • #8
                1. Walter Johnson
                2. Roger Clemens
                3. Cy Young
                4. Lefty Grove
                5. Tom Seaver
                "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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                • #9
                  Taking H/A splits, clutch, & LQ into account it's getting tougher and tougher for me to leave Seaver out of the top 5. He has some clear advantages over Maddux, much as hate to admit it.

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                  • #10
                    Hate to leave Mathewson out of the top-5.
                    “There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil.” Walter Lippmann

                    "I don't care if the guy is yellow or black, or if he has stripes like a ******* zebra. I'm the manager of this team and I say he [Robinson] plays." - Leo Durocher

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 1905 Giants View Post
                      Hate to leave Mathewson out of the top-5.
                      There are 9 guys in which cases could be made for top-5 pitchers. I wouldn't squabble with anyone for picking any of them.
                      1885 1886 1926 1931 1934 1942 1944 1946 1964 1967 1982 2006 2011

                      1887 1888 1928 1930 1943 1968 1985 1987 2004 2013

                      1996 2000 2001 2002 2005 2009 2012 2014 2015


                      The Top 100 Pitchers In MLB History
                      The Top 100 Position Players In MLB History

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bothrops Atrox View Post

                        There are 9 guys in which cases could be made for top-5 pitchers. I wouldn't squabble with anyone for picking any of them.
                        I get it, but I am "1905 Giants"

                        Speaking of which, Joe McGinnity later on baby.
                        “There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil.” Walter Lippmann

                        "I don't care if the guy is yellow or black, or if he has stripes like a ******* zebra. I'm the manager of this team and I say he [Robinson] plays." - Leo Durocher

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                        • #13
                          1. Walter Johnson
                          2. Cy Young
                          3. Roger Clemens
                          4. Greg Maddux
                          5. Satchel Paige

                          Cyclone and Rocket were basically a toss up. Johnson remains beyond reproach.
                          Last edited by bluesky5; 03-22-2020, 09:29 PM.
                          "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                          • #14
                            What in the world is Lefty Grove doing so high?
                            "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
                              What in the world is Lefty Grove doing so high?
                              All those ERA and strikeout crowns and 300 wins.
                              “There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil.” Walter Lippmann

                              "I don't care if the guy is yellow or black, or if he has stripes like a ******* zebra. I'm the manager of this team and I say he [Robinson] plays." - Leo Durocher

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