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  • pheasant
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    I decided to tweak this one a little bit. Listed below has all positions represented along with their spot in the lineup.

    1. 2012 Trout, CF, .326/.399/.564, 164 OPS+, 49 SB at 91% success rate
    2. 1999 Jeter, SS, .349/.438/.552, 153 OPS+,
    3. 1924, Hornsby, 2b, .424/507/.696 222 OPS+
    4. 2001 Bonds, LF, .328/.515/.863 259 OPS+,73 HRS
    5. 1932 Foxx, 1B, .364/.469/749, 207 OPS+, 58 HRS
    6. 1971 Brooks Robinson, 3B, .272/.341/.431, 121 OPS+
    7. 1930 Hartnett, C, .339/.404/.630, 144 OPS+,37 HRS
    8. 1983 Charlie Moore, RF, .284/.354/369, 100 OPS+
    9. 1915 Ruth, P, .325/.376/.576, 188 OPS+

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  • Ubiquitous
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    Made some changes to the list. Swapped out Roy Cullenbine for Troy Glaus at #6 and added Roberto Kelly at the #9 spot.

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  • Ubiquitous
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    Ignoring era and using their seasonal numbers and not what they did at a specific spot in the lineup I get 1460 runs per 162 games played. The optimal lineup would score 1493 runs and the least optimal lineup would score 1402 runs.

    The best lineup would be 6, 3, 2, 4 ,5, 7, 1, 9, 8 and the worst lineup would be 9, 8, 2, 7, 1, 4, 5, 6, 3

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  • Pere
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    I don't think the question is about how that group would fare as an actual team, playing on both sides of the ball. Just as a batting lineup.

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  • Ubiquitous
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    Considering they have no one to play the infield besides at first base I'd say not a lot as the lineup would get gutted by injuries as the various players pulled hamstrings, muscles, and broke bones.

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  • Honus Wagner Rules
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    Originally posted by Ubiquitous View Post
    With BRef addint a search function for splits I am now able to go through almost 100 years worth of stats to find the very best hitter for each lineup spot. This list is based on playing time at the actual lineup spot, performance in that spot, and performance in that spot compared to other hitters in that spot.

    #1 Rickey Henderson, 1990 .349/.438/.552 MVP
    #2 Lefty O'Doul, 1929 .398/.465/.622 2nd in MVP votes
    #3 Babe Ruth, 1921 .378/.512/.846
    #4 Barry Bonds, 2004 .362/.509/.812 MVP
    #5 Jimmie Foxx, 1932 .364/.469/.749 MVP
    #6 Roy Cullenbine, 1946 .335/.477/.537 Not a single MVP vote nor an AS selection. The very next year would be his last year in the majors
    #7 Gabby Hartnett, 1930 .339/.404/.630
    #8 Adolfo Phillips, 1967 .268/.384/.458
    #9 Don Newcombe, 1955 .359/.395/.632


    So as you can see from the old list many new changes:
    How many runs would such a lineup score in a 162 game schedule?


    POST #17,000!!!
    Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 04-18-2013, 12:20 PM.

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  • Ubiquitous
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    With BRef addint a search function for splits I am now able to go through almost 100 years worth of stats to find the very best hitter for each lineup spot. This list is based on playing time at the actual lineup spot, performance in that spot, and performance in that spot compared to other hitters in that spot.

    #1 Rickey Henderson, 1990 .349/.438/.552 MVP
    #2 Lefty O'Doul, 1929 .398/.465/.622 2nd in MVP votes
    #3 Babe Ruth, 1921 .378/.512/.846
    #4 Barry Bonds, 2004 .362/.509/.812 MVP
    #5 Jimmie Foxx, 1932 .364/.469/.749 MVP
    #6 Roy Cullenbine, 1946 .335/.477/.537 Not a single MVP vote nor an AS selection. The very next year would be his last year in the majors
    #7 Gabby Hartnett, 1930 .339/.404/.630
    #8 Adolfo Phillips, 1967 .268/.384/.458
    #9 Don Newcombe, 1955 .359/.395/.632


    So as you can see from the old list many new changes:
    For me:
    #1 Rickey Henderson, 1990 .349/.438/.552 MVP
    #2 Alex Rodriguez, 1996 .358/.414/.631
    #3 Barry Bonds, 2001 .328/.515/.863 MVP
    #4 Lou Gehrig, 1927 .373/.474/.765 MVP
    #5 Barry Bonds, 1993 .336/.458/.677 MVP
    #6 Riggs Stephenson, 1929 .362/.445/.562
    #7 Manny Ramirez, 1995 .308/.402/.558
    #8 Johnny Bassler, 1924 .346/.441/.422
    #9 Walter Johnson, 1925 .433/.455/.577

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  • Ubiquitous
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    Actually I found someone better. Riggs Stephenson, 1929.

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  • Ubiquitous
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    I switched out Vinny Castilla, 1996 for George Selkirk, 1939 at the #6 spot.

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  • Ubiquitous
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    I switched out Jason Kendall, 1996 at the #8 spot for Johnny Bassler, 1924. If Jason Heyward continues to hit like he is doing and Fredi keeps him at the #6 spot then he'll replace Vinny at the #6 spot this year.

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  • torez77
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    Originally posted by 538280
    Yup. Real scientific reasoning there. Rickey was better and you know it. His era adjusted numbers are better and he played in a much stronger leauge. You can have Hamilton, and I'll take Rickey, and guess who'll be better off?
    Didn't I just admit Rickey's season was better cuz of the era adjusted stats?

    Leave me alone and let me salivate over Hamilton's stats and pretend they're better than Rickey's!

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  • 538280
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    Originally posted by torez77
    You pretty much explained what my first sentence meant. Hamilton looks much better looking at the raw stats, but if you era-adjust them, Henderson looks better. I just like Hamilton alot so that's why his 1894 would be my personal preference.
    Yup. Real scientific reasoning there. Rickey was better and you know it. His era adjusted numbers are better and he played in a much stronger leauge. You can have Hamilton, and I'll take Rickey, and guess who'll be better off?

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  • torez77
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    Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948
    Espn classic just did their "Who's number 1" show of the top single season performances of all time. Guess who was number 1
    I'm sorry I missed that. When is it on again, Sultan?

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  • Blackout
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    Delete This

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  • Sultan_1895-1948
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    Originally posted by blackout805
    what Ruth season was #1? do you remember if any other baseball seasons on there?
    Watched it last night. Ruth's '21 was number 1.

    Williams '41 was on there and Gibson's 1.12 season was on there.

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