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  • #31
    3rd: Steve Finley - best modern position player career candidate, enough prime value to earn a spot.

    2nd: Buzz Arlett - successful pitcher age 20-23, mashed everywhere he went ages 24-37.

    2nd: Doc White - latest Retrosheet data has sweetened his candidacy, tied for best PARC-ds of the 60'6" era MLB pitchers.


    UPDATE:

    3rds: Mark Belanger, Paul Derringer, Steve Finley, Troy Glaus, Paul O'Neill, Mickey Vernon,

    2nds: Buzz Arlett, Lorenzo Cain, Jason Heyward, John Hiller, Catfish Hunter, Red Lucas, Rabbit Maranville, Charlie Root, Doc White

    1sts: Harold Baines, Walter Ball, Dave Barnhill, Ken Caminiti, John Clapp, Bingo DeMoss, Mike Donlin, Rollie Fingers, Larry French, Juan Gonzalez, Paul Konerko, Bill Mazeroski, Dick McAuliffe, Deacon McGuire, Mike Scioscia, Lonnie Smith, John Tudor, Frank White

    Top 50 remaining without a 3rd nomination:

    C - Duke Farrell, Rick Ferrell, Gervasio Gonzalez, Sherm Lollar, Mike Scioscia,
    1B - Julian Castillo,
    2B - Julio Franco, Dick McAuliffe, Bunny Serrell,
    3B - Bill Bradley, Ken Caminiti, Eric Chavez, Ryan Zimmerman
    SS - Dick Bartell, Rafael Furcal, Rabbit Maranville, Roger Peckinpaugh, Artie Wilson
    LF - Moises Alou, Dusty Baker
    CF - Steve Finley, Marquis Grissom, Fielder Jones, Ray Lankford, Bobby Murcer
    RF - Buzz Arlett, Shin-Soo Choo, Juan Gonzalez
    P - Walter Ball, Dave Barnhill, Josh Beckett, Ramon Bragana, Chris Carpenter, Jack Chesbro, Tom Gordon, Catfish Hunter, John Lackey, Al Leiter, Red Lucas, Al Orth, Claude Osteen, Milt Pappas, Howie Pollet, Jack Powell, Johnny Sain, Bob Shawkey, Bob Welch, Jim Whitney, George Zettelin
    Last edited by Jar of Flies; 06-10-2021, 10:04 PM.
    Jacquelyn Eva Marchand (1983-2017)
    http://www.tezakfuneralhome.com/noti...uelyn-Marchand

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    • #32
      3rd Catfish Hunter
      Nominate Al Dark – Overdue. #33 in JAWS at SS, second highest on the board (VMart is #29 at C). Delayed start to career losing age 22, 23, half of age 24 to war service. ROY at age 26, instrumental to Braves pennant run.
      Nominate Fielder Jones – Offensive catalyst. Grade A glove. Consistency at a high level. Win shares darling.
      Si quaeris peninsulam amoenam, circumspice.

      Comprehensive Reform for the Veterans Committee -- Fixing the Hall continued.

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      • #33
        Nominate-Ned Garver
        Nominate-Al Leiter
        Nominate-Bob Shawkey

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        • #34
          2nd: Dave Barnhill - highest Negro Leaguer by PARC-ds and Miller and Eric remaining.

          2nd: Fielder Jones - similar to the recently enshrined Roy Thomas, a touch more power but a fair bit less walks, closes the gap with better defense.

          2nd: Bob Shawkey - tied with Doc White for best PARC-ds among 60' 6" MLB pitchers, bump for losing a prime year to WWI, +2.5 clutch wins and +1.1 playoff WPA, has some stealthy relief value.

          UPDATE:

          3rds: Mark Belanger, Paul Derringer, Steve Finley, Troy Glaus, Catfish Hunter, Paul O'Neill, Mickey Vernon,

          2nds: Buzz Arlett, Dave Barnhill, Lorenzo Cain, Jason Heyward, John Hiller, Fielder Jones, Red Lucas, Rabbit Maranville, Charlie Root, Bob Shawkey, Doc White

          1sts: Harold Baines, Walter Ball, Ken Caminiti, John Clapp, Al Dark, Bingo DeMoss, Mike Donlin, Rollie Fingers, Larry French, Ned Garver, Juan Gonzalez, Paul Konerko, Al Leiter, Bill Mazeroski, Dick McAuliffe, Deacon McGuire, Mike Scioscia, Lonnie Smith, John Tudor, Frank White
          Jacquelyn Eva Marchand (1983-2017)
          http://www.tezakfuneralhome.com/noti...uelyn-Marchand

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          • #35
            Top 50 without a third nomination-

            C-Tom Haller, Sherm Lollar
            1B-Kent Hrbek, Kevin Youkilis
            2B-Placido Polanco, Robby Thompson, Dick McAuliffe, Julio Franco,
            3B-Eric Chavez, Carny Lansford, Ryan Zimmerman, Kyle Seager ,Kris Bryant, Jose Ramirez
            SS-Rico Petrocelli, Rafael Furcal, Alvin Dark, Francisco Lindor
            LF-Lonnie Smith, Moises Alou, Sid Gordon
            CF-Lorenzo Cain, Ray Lankford, Dwayne Murphy
            RF-Jason Heyward, Reggie Sanders, Bob Allison, Brian Jordan
            SP- Bob Shawkey, Ned Garver, Al Leiter, Jon Matlack, Milt Pappas, Red Lucas, Tom Candiotti, Jim Maloney, John Tudor, Josh Beckett, Larry French, Al Orth, Murray Dickson, Bob Welch, Mark Gubizca, Curt Davis, Teddy Higuera, Van Lingle Mungo, Sid Fernandez, Gerrit Cole
            RP- John Hiller, Craig Kimbrel

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            • #36
              Thanks Freak, Chad, and Rob on the updated lists, helps me out !!!
              Jacquelyn Eva Marchand (1983-2017)
              http://www.tezakfuneralhome.com/noti...uelyn-Marchand

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              • #37
                Nominate Julian Castillo
                Nominate Gervasio Gonzalez
                Nominate Roosevelt Davis

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                • #38
                  2nd: Al Leiter
                  Nominate: Sherm Lollar
                  Nominate: Moises Alou

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                  • #39
                    UPDATE:

                    3rds: Mark Belanger, Paul Derringer, Steve Finley, Troy Glaus, Catfish Hunter, Paul O'Neill, Mickey Vernon,

                    2nds: Buzz Arlett, Dave Barnhill, Lorenzo Cain, Jason Heyward, John Hiller, Fielder Jones, Al Leiter, Red Lucas, Rabbit Maranville, Charlie Root, Bob Shawkey, Doc White

                    1sts: Moises Alou, Harold Baines, Walter Ball, Ken Caminiti, Julian Castillo, John Clapp, Al Dark, Roosevelt Davis, Bingo DeMoss, Mike Donlin, Rollie Fingers, Larry French, Ned Garver, Gervasio Gonzalez, Juan Gonzalez, Paul Konerko, Sherm Lollar, Bill Mazeroski, Dick McAuliffe, Deacon McGuire, Mike Scioscia, Lonnie Smith, John Tudor, Frank White
                    Jacquelyn Eva Marchand (1983-2017)
                    http://www.tezakfuneralhome.com/noti...uelyn-Marchand

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                    • #40
                      Second Mazeroski
                      Second Dark
                      Second Lollar

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                      • #41
                        Nominate Heinie Zimmerman
                        Nominate George Kell
                        Nominate Magglio Ordonez

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                        • #42
                          UPDATE:

                          3rds: Mark Belanger, Paul Derringer, Steve Finley, Troy Glaus, Catfish Hunter, Paul O'Neill, Mickey Vernon,

                          2nds: Buzz Arlett, Dave Barnhill, Lorenzo Cain, Al Dark, Jason Heyward, John Hiller, Fielder Jones, Al Leiter, Sherm Lollar, Red Lucas, Rabbit Maranville, Bill Mazeroski, Charlie Root, Bob Shawkey, Doc White

                          1sts: Moises Alou, Harold Baines, Walter Ball, Ken Caminiti, Julian Castillo, John Clapp, Roosevelt Davis, Bingo DeMoss, Mike Donlin, Rollie Fingers, Larry French, Ned Garver, Gervasio Gonzalez, Juan Gonzalez, George Kell, Paul Konerko, Dick McAuliffe, Deacon McGuire, Magglio Ordonez, Mike Scioscia, Lonnie Smith, John Tudor, Frank White, Heinie Zimmerman
                          Jacquelyn Eva Marchand (1983-2017)
                          http://www.tezakfuneralhome.com/noti...uelyn-Marchand

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                          • #43
                            3rd Buzz Arlett, Sherm Lollar
                            Nominate Juan Gonzalez
                            Last edited by jjpm74; 06-11-2021, 09:11 AM.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post
                              3rd Buzz Arlett, Sherm Lollar
                              Nominate Fred Tenney
                              Tenney is already on the ballot as a holdover.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by PVNICK View Post

                                Tenney is already on the ballot as a holdover.
                                Thanks. I edited my previous post and seconded Juan Gonzalez.

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