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Speaking of career value.
Kirk Gibson and Tim Salmon come to my mind.
Kirk Gibson and Tim Salmon come to my mind.
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It may depend upon who was technically "never selected" butOriginally posted by FatAngel
SP Rijo?
C Dempsey?
1B Trosky?
2B RThompson?
3B Cabell?
SS Rogell?
OF Tovar, Maddox?Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson and Christy Mathewson.
(Just kidding)."Hey Mr. McGraw! Can I pitch to-day?"Comment
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Eric ChavezComment
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Good choiceOriginally posted by BoSox Rule
but he's no, uh, Scott Cooper 
Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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Kevin McReynolds
Tim Wakefield
Deron Johnson
Matt Stairs
Wally Post!!Comment
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oh and Zeke Bonura!!Comment
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My first thought was some of those 70s/early 80s Toronto guys - Willie Upshaw(look at his '83 season), Rick Cerone, Garth Iorg.Comment
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For position players it's gotta be Tony Phillips. He happens to have by far the most career WAR and most 4-WAR seasons (7) of any player since 1933 to never make an All-Star team.
I'm at a loss for pitchers.My top 10 players:
1. Babe Ruth
2. Barry Bonds
3. Ty Cobb
4. Ted Williams
5. Willie Mays
6. Alex Rodriguez
7. Hank Aaron
8. Honus Wagner
9. Lou Gehrig
10. Mickey MantleComment
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Tudor, Rijo, Candiotti, Leibrandt, Denny, Freddie Fitzsimmons ...Originally posted by GiambiJuice View PostMythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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Wow! There are some great picks in here: Robby Thompson, Garth Iorg (!!!), Willie Upshaw. That warms my heart. Didn't Todd Zeile have a long career without ever getting a shot at the All-Star Game? Man, I remember the promise that kid showed coming up as a power-hitting catcher. Then he quickly got moved to 3B to replace Pendleton to make room for the awesome catcher, Tom Pagnozzi. Ugh, not a good time to be a Cardinal fan, but I still fondly remember Zeile and Pags. Too bad they didn't pan out the way I would have liked, but Pags was still a very fine catcher. I hope his son does well, wherever he is now."It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy DeanComment
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Zeile is the only player with 2,000 hits and 200 homers to not make the all star team.Originally posted by Herr28 View PostMy top 10 players:
1. Babe Ruth
2. Barry Bonds
3. Ty Cobb
4. Ted Williams
5. Willie Mays
6. Alex Rodriguez
7. Hank Aaron
8. Honus Wagner
9. Lou Gehrig
10. Mickey MantleComment
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Jose Rijo never made an All Star game? WHAT? He was most certainly the NL's 2nd best pitcher from 1990-1994. That would be shocking. Then again, Bert and Fergie only made two each.Originally posted by RuthMayBond View Post1885 1886 1926 1931 1934 1942 1944 1946 1964 1967 1982 2006 2011
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The Top 100 Pitchers In MLB History
The Top 100 Position Players In MLB HistoryComment
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I've always thought of a "star" in terms of popularity. There are stars in other fields whose actual talent is exceeded by others, yet those others rarely get the spotlight, or if they do, it doesn't shine as brightly as it does on those who fate has decided are, in fact, stars.
So in that sense I've always seen the All-Star game as a popularity contest, and except perhaps for 2013 I've never taken it THAT seriously.Please help. I was diagnosed with Stage 4 cancer last summer, and now I'm in a position where I need financial assistance. For the full story, please check out my GoFundMe campaign at https://gofund.me/3874ea2d. Thank you.Comment
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