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    Who are the best players at each position to ever play in New York? Basically, make a lineup/rotation consisting only of players from the Yankees, Mets, Brooklyn Dodgers and New York Giants.
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    Starting Lineup
    C- Yogi Berra
    1B- Lou Gehrig
    2B- Jackie Robinson
    3B- A-Rod
    SS- Derek Jeter
    RF- Babe Ruth
    CF- Mickey Mantle
    LF- Rickey Henderson

    Bench
    Mike Piazza
    Johnny Mize
    Rogers Hornsby
    Frankie Frisch
    Pee Wee Reese
    Reggie Jackson
    Willie Mays
    Duke Snider
    Frank Baker

    Starting Pitching
    SP- Christy Mathewson
    SP- Carl Hubbell
    SP- Tom Seaver
    SP- Whitey Ford
    SP- Dazzy Vance

    Relief Pitching
    CP- Mariano Rivera
    RP- Goose Gossage
    RP- Sparky Lyle
    RP- John Wetteland
    Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 02-21-2008, 02:57 PM.
    Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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    • #3
      I couldnt add much to the post above me, except to say that since outfielders can basically play any outfield position, how can Joe Dimaggio not be in the starting outfield? As good as Henderson was, I will take Joe D any day over Rickey. Other than that, awesome job picking the team!
      I AM SO THANKFUL FOR BEING BORN IN NEW YORK AND FOR BEING A FAN OF ALL NEW YORK SPORTS TEAMS

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dabigyankeeman View Post
        I couldnt add much to the post above me, except to say that since outfielders can basically play any outfield position, how can Joe Dimaggio not be in the starting outfield? As good as Henderson was, I will take Joe D any day over Rickey. Other than that, awesome job picking the team!
        I don't believe that outfieldrs can play other outfiled positions necessarily. Rickey was a left fielder and Joe D wasn't. Plus I want Rickey to lead off. I don't like to move OFers to other outhfield positions. It like when they give Gold Glove Awards to three center fielders. I hate that. That's like giving the four infield awards to four shortstops, makes no sense. Besides my lineups are not set in stone. On many days I'd probably start Joe D over Mantle.
        Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 02-24-2008, 12:57 PM.
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        • #5
          I'd add Mel Ott on the bench.
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          • #6
            Willie is a benchwarmer?
            My top 10 players:

            1. Babe Ruth
            2. Barry Bonds
            3. Ty Cobb
            4. Ted Williams
            5. Willie Mays
            6. Alex Rodriguez
            7. Hank Aaron
            8. Honus Wagner
            9. Lou Gehrig
            10. Mickey Mantle

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            • #7
              There is no doubt that Henderson is the greatest leadoff hitter of all time, but he was lacking in the field with a weak arm. Mantle played right field with DiMaggio in center, Mickey could move to left, and Henderson could be a DH and leadoff. Hard to keep Willie out of the starting lineup though, you know, Mantle originally was a shortstop, we could put Mickey at short and Willie in the outfield. I bet I am driving you nuts. Remember too, that Babe Ruth was a great pitcher, and he could pitch which would open up another outfield spot! Gotta think outside the box here! Anyway, I defy any other city to come up with a team like this - GO NEW YORK!
              I AM SO THANKFUL FOR BEING BORN IN NEW YORK AND FOR BEING A FAN OF ALL NEW YORK SPORTS TEAMS

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dabigyankeeman View Post
                There is no doubt that Henderson is the greatest leadoff hitter of all time, but he was lacking in the field with a weak arm. Mantle played right field with DiMaggio in center, Mickey could move to left, and Henderson could be a DH and leadoff. Hard to keep Willie out of the starting lineup though, you know, Mantle originally was a shortstop, we could put Mickey at short and Willie in the outfield. I bet I am driving you nuts. Remember too, that Babe Ruth was a great pitcher, and he could pitch which would open up another outfield spot! Gotta think outside the box here! Anyway, I defy any other city to come up with a team like this - GO NEW YORK!
                In Rickey's younger day he was a very very good outfielder. He even played CF for the Yankee and should have one at least one GG. I didn't think of using a DH. If it allowed then of course that opens up a spot. I based my team more on Peak and Mantle was simply better than Willie at their respective peaks. But I have no problem starting Willie over Mantle. As for Ruth pitching he didn;t pitch for the Yankees so I can't honestly use him him as a pitcher.
                Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by AutographCollector View Post
                  I'd add Mel Ott on the bench.
                  I totally forgot about Master Melvin! I'm not sure who I'd drop? Duke Snider?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                    I totally forgot about Master Melvin! I'm not sure who I'd drop? Duke Snider?
                    Tough choice on who to drop. Sadly the "Duke of Flatbush" seems likes the only choice.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                      Starting Lineup
                      2B- Jackie Robinson

                      RF- Babe Ruth
                      CF- Mickey Mantle
                      LF- Rickey Henderson

                      Bench
                      Rogers Hornsby

                      Willie Mays
                      Duke Snider
                      I'd delete Henderson and Snider in favour of Ott and DiMaggio, personally. I'd also have Mantle in one corner (played about one season of each), Ruth in the other (he played about the same number of games in each) and Mays in center.

                      Also: If you're going to have Hornsby on the team, how is he not the starting 2B? Defense? The fact that he only played in NY for one season?
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Scoops View Post
                        I'd delete Henderson and Snider in favour of Ott and DiMaggio, personally. I'd also have Mantle in one corner (played about one season of each), Ruth in the other (he played about the same number of games in each) and Mays in center.

                        Also: If you're going to have Hornsby on the team, how is he not the starting 2B? Defense? The fact that he only played in NY for one season?
                        I want a great all around team. Having Jackie and Rickey give me that. I already have enough heavy hitters. Batting Rickey leadoff and Jackie #2 would be a devasting 1-2 punch at the top of the lineup. Besides I only count what a player did in NY. Hornsby had a great season in hs one year with the Giants. but Jackie at his best was pretty awesome as well.

                        Say is anyone esle going to post their all-time NY team?
                        Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                        • #13
                          My lineup would be:

                          1. Henderson
                          2. Robinson
                          3. Ruth
                          4. Gehrig
                          5. Mantle
                          6. A-Rod
                          7. Jeter
                          8. Berra
                          9. Pitcher
                          Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                          • #14
                            Your 2Bman has to be Hornsby, and your SS has to be Arky Vaughan.

                            I'd go like this:

                            C: Yogi Berra
                            1B: Lou Gehrig
                            2B: Rogers Hornsby
                            SS: Arky Vaughan
                            3B: Alex Rodriguez
                            LF: Babe Ruth
                            CF: Willie Mays
                            RF: Joe DiMaggio (he played 18 games there in his career)
                            DH: Mickey Mantle

                            C: Bill Dickey (Or Mike Piazza, if you must)
                            1B: Johnny Mize
                            IF: Jackie Robinson
                            OF: Rickey Henderson
                            OF: Mel Ott
                            OF: Duke Snider

                            SP: Christy Matthewson
                            SP: Pedro Martinez
                            SP: Roger Clemens (or if you want to toss him for steroids, pick from Sandy Koufax or Carl Hubbell)
                            SP: Randy Johnson
                            SP: Warren Spahn

                            CL: Mariano Rivera
                            RP: Hoyt Wilhelm
                            RP: Goose Gossage
                            RP: Billy Wagner
                            Longman/Spot Starter: Joe McGinnity (chosen because he pitched extensively in relief, and could easily fulfill both a starting or relieving role)

                            I think this team can give an all-time non-NY team a run for its money. That bullpen is insanity; you can make a legitimate argument that Rivera, Wilhelm, Gossage, and Wagner are the top 4 relief pitchers of all time. You can also make an argument that this team has the offensive edge over the non-NY team at C, 1B, 2B, 3B, LF, CF, and DH. Pedro, Rocket, Randy Johnson, and Warren Spahn very nicely flesh out a rotation led by Christy Matthewson (the only "real" NY pitcher on the list). I'd give them a fighting chance against any other team ever.
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                            • #15
                              I can understand why you've got Henderson in there, it adds something other than pure slugging to the line-up but given the choice between Henderson and mays, Mays takes it for me no problem. In fact i cant think of a single fantasy line-up that he would be eligible but not actually get into!
                              The rest of your starting lineup i agree with.

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