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  • Blackout
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    so what season are you going to put ahead of his 2007 year?


    and mcgwire's 98 was better than bonds 03

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  • philkid3
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    Originally posted by blackout805 View Post
    you can use all the If's and But's but the reality is Hack Wilson had 101 more RBI.
    Because he had 200 more at-bats and a team that got on-base more.

    You just ignore that fact? That makes 0 sense.

    RBIs are a team stat. You can't get an RBI if you can't swing the bat (unless the bases are loaded, of course), and even if you do you won't get an RBI if no one is on base.


    as for A-rod, how was this NOT his best season? career high OBP and slugging %, RBI, Runs scored, OPS+, what else do you need??
    Great defense at the most difficult position? It was likely his best offensive season, but he was close in past years while playing great defense at a much more difficult position.
    Last edited by philkid3; 02-25-2008, 06:34 AM.

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  • Blackout
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    Originally posted by philkid3 View Post
    How was that for sure A-Rod's best season? It was probably his best year on offense, but not by much. He was not, however, playing top-of-the-line defense at shortstop. I don't see how it was definitively his best.



    Wilson's team has 36 point lead in OBP over Bonds and he had 195 more at-bats because he wasn't getting walked. Put people on base for him a bit more often and give him 200 more at bats and you don't think Bonds can make up that RBI difference?

    He created 74 more runs. That's just the start of how he could be more valuable.
    you can use all the If's and But's but the reality is Hack Wilson had 101 more RBI. and bonds was a slow old man in 2003 which hurts his defense.

    I'd say Mark Mcgwire's 98 was better than Bonds 03.

    as for A-rod, how was this NOT his best season? career high OBP and slugging %, RBI, Runs scored, OPS+, what else do you need??

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  • philkid3
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    Originally posted by blackout805 View Post
    alex, mark, hack, howard, jackson

    those were their best years for sure.
    How was that for sure A-Rod's best season? It was probably his best year on offense, but not by much. He was not, however, playing top-of-the-line defense at shortstop. I don't see how it was definitively his best.


    hack wilson had 101 more RBI's than bonds in these selected seasons, how can Bonds be more valuable?
    Wilson's team has 36 point lead in OBP over Bonds and he had 195 more at-bats because he wasn't getting walked. Put people on base for him a bit more often and give him 200 more at bats and you don't think Bonds can make up that RBI difference?

    He created 74 more runs. That's just the start of how he could be more valuable.

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  • Blackout
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    alex, mark, hack, howard, jackson

    those were their best years for sure.

    mays is arguable

    bonds' top 3 (2001, 2002 and 2004) would obviously win. but his '03 season isn't as strong

    hack wilson had 101 more RBI's than bonds in these selected seasons, how can Bonds be more valuable?

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  • philkid3
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    It's between Mays and Bonds for me, and I went with Mays, in the end.

    Interestingly, I wouldn't consider those the best seasons by almost any of those guys. Why these years in particular?

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  • Blackout
    started a poll Best season of the following:

    Best season of the following:

    14
    Alex Rodriguez
    21.43%
    3
    Ryan Howard
    0.00%
    0
    Hack Wilson
    7.14%
    1
    Barry Bonds
    28.57%
    4
    Willie Mays
    35.71%
    5
    Mark Mcwgire
    7.14%
    1
    Joe Jackson
    0.00%
    0
    Alex Rodriguez 2007: .314/.422/.645, 31 doubles 54 home runs 143 runs 156 RBI 95 runs 24 SB's (4 CS), 177 OPS+


    Ryan Howard 2006: .313/.425/.659, 25 doubles 1 triple 58 home runs 149 RBI 104 Runs 167 OPS+


    Hack Wilson 1930 .356/.454/.723, 35 doubles 6 triples 56 home runs 191 RBI 146 runs 3 SB's 178 OPS+


    Barry Bonds* 2003: .341/.529/.749, 22 doubles 1 triple 45 home runs 90 RBI 111 runs 7 SBs (0 CS) 231 OPS+


    Willie Mays 1965: .317/.398/.645. 21 doubles 3 triples 52 home runs 112 RBI 118 runs 9 SBs (4 CS) 184 OPS+


    Mark McGwire* 1998: .299/.470/.752, 21 doubles 70 home runs 147 RBI 130 Runs 1 SB (0 CS) 216 OPS+


    Joe Jackson 1912: .395/.458/.579, 45 doubles 19 triples 7 home runs 83 RBI 126 Runs 41 SB 193 OPS+

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