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  • How historic was Alex Rodriguez's 2007 season?

    .314/.422/.645, 54 home runs, 156 RBI, 143 runs scored, 24 stolen bases (4 cs), 95 walks, 376 total bases, 177 OPS+, MVP award (near unanimous)


    most home runs by a 3rd basemen in a season, not sure if he has the most RBI though. i bet he does.

    26
    the best offensive season by a 3rd Basemen
    76.92%
    20
    one of the best offensive seasons by anybody
    30.77%
    8
    nothing special compared to the numbers Bonds and Sosa had earlier in the decade
    11.54%
    3
    Not his best offensive season
    0%
    0

  • #2
    A great season, without question, but a 177 OPS+ with decent defense from 3rd base and a few stolen bases does not land Rodiguez into the discussion with guys who were floating 230-240 OPS+s.

    I just looked it up and Bonds had 15 seasons with a higher OPS+, Williams 12, Bonds 10 (five before you-know-what), Cobb 10. 8 for Hornsby. I would take the top several seasons from any of these guys over Rodriguez.
    Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 02-25-2008, 06:39 PM.
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    • #3
      I don't like the choices, so I didn't vote. They don't span enough options.

      I don't think it necessarily the best offensive season by a shortstop, though it is debatably so. Why isn't their an option for "one of the best?" Or even "not the best?"

      I'm not sure if I want to call it one of the best offensive seasons by anybody because I don't think you can make a good argument for it being the best offensive season ever.

      It is special even compared to Bonds best years, but it doesn't really catch them. I do think it was better than Sosa's best years. Sosa and Bonds shouldn't be lumped together.
      Hey, this is my public apology for suddenly disappearing and missing out on any projects I may have neglected.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by philkid3 View Post
        I don't like the choices, so I didn't vote. They don't span enough options.

        I don't think it necessarily the best offensive season by a shortstop, though it is debatably so. Why isn't their an option for "one of the best?" Or even "not the best?"

        I'm not sure if I want to call it one of the best offensive seasons by anybody because I don't think you can make a good argument for it being the best offensive season ever.

        It is special even compared to Bonds best years, but it doesn't really catch them. I do think it was better than Sosa's best years. Sosa and Bonds shouldn't be lumped together.
        Sosa 2001: .328/.437/.737 34 doubles 5 triples 64 HR 160 RBI 146 Runs

        those are Ruthian numbers

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        • #5
          Originally posted by blackout805 View Post
          Sosa 2001: .328/.437/.737 34 doubles 5 triples 64 HR 160 RBI 146 Runs

          those are Ruthian numbers
          Yes, 2001 was his best year and I'd put close to Bonds's best, but it's also still just one year.

          It is the only year of Sosa's I would put ahead of A-Rod in 2007.
          Hey, this is my public apology for suddenly disappearing and missing out on any projects I may have neglected.

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          • #6
            so how do you feel about it being the best year by a 3rd basemen?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by blackout805 View Post
              so how do you feel about it being the best year by a 3rd basemen?
              I think it is debatably. I'd put it behind Schmidt in '81 offensively, though that was obviously a strike year.

              Offensively I probably put it a little ahed of Schmidt in '80, but if defense is considered I think Schmidt takes the crown.

              If someone wants to call A-Rod's 2007 the best season ever by a third baseman, though, I don't have a problem with it.
              Hey, this is my public apology for suddenly disappearing and missing out on any projects I may have neglected.

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              • #8
                --My choice would also be "one of the best offensive seasons ever by a thirdbaseman". It wasn't the best.

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                • #9
                  One of the best by a 3rd baseman. Probably not the best by a 3rd baseman, and defintely not one of the best by anybody.
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDxgNjMTPIs

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                  • #10
                    name me seasosn by 3rd basemen that are better

                    just find me one.

                    and come up with something better than Mike Schmidt's strike season

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by leecemark View Post
                      --My choice would also be "one of the best offensive seasons ever by a thirdbaseman". It wasn't the best.
                      That was my thought exactly.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by blackout805 View Post
                        name me seasosn by 3rd basemen that are better

                        just find me one.

                        and come up with something better than Mike Schmidt's strike season
                        ...there isn't...

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                        • #13
                          George Brett's abreviated 1980 was on the same level as Schmidt's 1981 season-at least in the same ballpark. As far as full seasons that can at least be compared to Rodriguez' '07... Brett in '85? Boggs in '87? Schmidt '80? I don't know. These at least need to be in the dscussion.
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                          • #14
                            --Personally I like Schmidt's 81. I suppose there is some question about whether he could have sustained that over a full season, but it isn't like the season was cut short before he could cool off. It stopped - for a long time - and then resumed. It was simply the best season by the best thirdbaseman of all time. Brett's 1980 was short because he couldn't stay healthy and he shouldn't get full season credit for that (I'd take Schmidt's 1980 over Brett's).
                            --Other seasons on a par with Rodriguez 2007; Baker 1912, Rosen 1953, mathews 1953, 59 and 1960, Allen 64 and 66, Killebrew 1969, Brett 1980 and 85 and Boggs 1987.
                            Last edited by leecemark; 02-25-2008, 09:24 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Chipper Jones. 1999.
                              Hey, this is my public apology for suddenly disappearing and missing out on any projects I may have neglected.

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