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im not sure if this has been done before here...but who would you rank as the greatest living pitcher? whether or not they are still active doesnt matter.
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94greg maddux42.55%40tom seaver7.45%7pedro martinez5.32%5randy johnson6.38%6roger clemens13.83%13nolan ryan4.26%4bob gibson4.26%4Whitey Ford1.06%1sandy koufax9.57%9Bob Feller2.13%2Steve Carlton3.19%3other (say who it is)0%0Last edited by fenrir; 03-03-2008, 01:33 PM. -
I only really knew enough of the active pitchers to really say which is in my opinion the best. The long retired guys id be just going by reputation.
IMO, Maddux is the best pitcher of the last 20 years. Whether he is the best living pitcher i don't know. -
Clearly the best in the last 20, possibly the best since WWII, and conceivably the greatest pitcher in baseball history.Originally posted by fartingbob View PostComment
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I think we should consider Roger Clemens as having used steroids. His best friend, Andy Petitte, and Andy's wife, as well as the Yankee trainer all attest to this.
I vote for Greg Maddux. Followed by Bob Feller.Comment
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Let's see: 27 years, 312 wins in spite of playing for some VERY inept teams, 3.19 career ERA, 5714 strikeouts, 7 no-hitters........
Nolan Ryan, maybe?Comment
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^ Sometimes I think we have come so far... maybe not so much.Originally posted by DomenicComment
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I wish Nolan Ryan was never brought up at all. It's really rough to constantly hear how overrated your favorite player is, and it's even worse when you agree.Hey, this is my public apology for suddenly disappearing and missing out on any projects I may have neglected.Comment
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Noaln Ryan may get beat on paper a lot down here but I believe a lot of his peers would be clicking on the Ryan name if they was voting, Ryan like Gibson was very intimidating.Originally posted by Westlake View PostComment
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Once again, cognitive dissonance rears its ugly head....Originally posted by philkid3 View PostComment
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Well, Ryan was so intimating that all those supposedly intimidated hitters hung 292 losses on him.Originally posted by Old Sweater View PostLast edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 03-03-2008, 05:18 PM.Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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is Lefty Grove still alive?Comment
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No, he isn't.Originally posted by willshad View Post
Born March 6, 1900 in Lonaconing, MD
Died May 22, 1975 in Norwalk, OHComment
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Right. Because we all know that losses indicate so much. There are much better pitchers with more losses than Ryan, and much worse pitchers with less losses.Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View PostComment
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Cy Young had a ton of losses. That by itself don't mean crap.
It's a tough question. I think if you're talking short-term, very few pitchers dominated like Koufax did in the early 60s.
And let's not forget Steve Carlton. He pitched for some pretty crappy teams.
But I've got to go with Maddux. Clemens is disqualified from the discussion."Hey Mr. McGraw! Can I pitch to-day?"Comment
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The Mad Dog is only 3 wins from becoming only the 9th pitcher with 350 wins, and 8 more to surpass the lying rocket. Also, he leads 2 separate decades in wins (176 in the 1990s and 126 in the 2000s), and needs only 70 more strikeouts from being in the Top 10 all-time in that department as well, as well as 183 more innings from 5,000 IP all-time.Last Player to hit for the Cycle: Matt Kemp, San Diego Padres (August 14, 2015)
Last Pitcher to throw a Regular Season No-Hitter: Max Scherzer, Washington Nationals 2-0 (October 3, 2015)
Last Pitcher to throw a Postseason No-Hitter: Roy Halladay, Philadelphia Phillies 4-0 (October 6, 2010)Comment
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