All Star teams

[George H Ruth]

Alright I want to start a little thing here, but first I need to know who you guys think are the best players at every position in the last 50 years. So who do you think are the best players at each position from 1958-2008. This is what I mean.

-Catcher
-First Baseman
-Second Baseman
-Shortstop
-Third Baseman
-Left Field
-Center Field
-Right Field
-Starting Pitcher 1
-Starting Pitcher 2
-Relief Pitcher
-Closer

Now that's the first team.

Now I want you to take the best players at every position from 1900-1958.

-Catcher
-First Baseman
-Second Baseman
-Shortstop
-Third Baseman
-Left Field
-Center Field
-Right Field
-Starting Pitcher 1
-Starting Pitcher 2
-Relief Pitcher
-Closer

When I see a few replies I'll tell you what I'm going to do with these two teams.

I know you cant really choose a closer and relief pitcher for the second team, so just put two more starting pitchers that have less then 150 wins.

[yanks0714]

Alright I want to start a little thing here, but first I need to know who you guys think are the best players at every position in the last 50 years. So who do you think are the best players at each position from 1958-2008. This is what I mean.

-Catcher > Johnny Bench
-First Baseman > Jeff Bagwell
-Second Baseman > Joe Morgan
-Shortstop > Cal Ripken Jr
-Third Baseman > Mike Schmidt
-Left Field > Barry Bonds
-Center Field > Willie Mays
-Right Field > Hank Aaron
-Starting Pitcher 1 > Roger Clemens
-Starting Pitcher 2 > Greg Maddux
-Relief Pitcher > Hoyt Wilhelm
-Closer > Mariano Rivera

Now that's the first team.

Now I want you to take the best players at every position from 1900-1958.

-Catcher > Yogi Berra
-First Baseman > Lou Gehrig
-Second Baseman > Rogers Hornsby
-Shortstop > Honus Wagner
-Third Baseman > Eddie Mathews
-Left Field > Ted Williams
-Center Field > Ty Cobb
-Right Field > Babe Ruth
-Starting Pitcher 1 > Walter Johnson
-Starting Pitcher 2 > Pete Alexander
-Relief Pitcher > Firpo Marberry???
-Closer > N/A

When I see a few replies I'll tell you what I'm going to do with these two teams.

See my replies above.

[Victory Faust]

1900-1958

1B: Lou Gehrig
2B: Rogers Hornsby
SS: Honus Wagner
3B: Pie Traynor
LF: Shoeless Joe Jackson
CF: Ty Cobb
RF: Babe Ruth
C: Mickey Cochrane

SP: Walter Johnson
SP: Grover Cleveland Alexander
RP: Wilcy Moore
Closer: Firpo Marberry


1958-2008

1B: Willie McCovey
2B: Joe Morgan
SS: Alex Rodriguez
3B: Mike Schmidt
LF: Frank Robinson
CF: Willie Mays
RF: Hank Aaron
C: Johnny Bench

SP: Sandy Koufax
SP: Greg Maddux
RP: Goose Gossage
Closer: Dennis Eckersley

[George H Ruth]

Come on guys I need more responces then these two line ups, I'm trying to make this thread interesting, but I need more participation.

[leecemark]

--Well if you were really trying to make it interesting you might have made a try at this yourself instead of just asking for others input.. But here goes..

1958-2008

-Catcher: Johnny Bench
-First Baseman: Jeff Bagwell
-Second Baseman: Joe Morgan
-Shortstop: Alex Rodriguez
-Third Baseman: Mike Schmidt
-Left Field: Barry Bonds
-Center Field: Willie Mays
-Right Field: Hank Aaron
-Starting Pitcher 1: Greg Maddux
-Starting Pitcher 2: Roger Clemens
-Relief Pitcher: Hoyt Wilhelm
-Closer: Goose Gossage

Now that's the first team.

Now I want you to take the best players at every position from 1900-1958.

-Catcher: Yogi Berra (Josh Gibson?)
-First Baseman: Lou Gehrig
-Second Baseman: Rogers Hornsby
-Shortstop: Honus Wagner
-Third Baseman: Frank Baker
-Left Field: Ted Williams
-Center Field: Ty Cobb
-Right Field: Babe Ruth
-Starting Pitcher 1: Walter Johnson
-Starting Pitcher 2: Lefty Grove
-Relief Pitcher: Joe Wood
-Closer: Firpo Marberry

[Bill Burgess]

-Catcher - Jonny Bench
-First Baseman - Bagwell
-Second Baseman - Joe Morgan
-Shortstop - Alexander Rodriquez
-Third Baseman - Schmidt
-Left Field - Bonds
-Center Field - Mays
-Right Field - Aaron
-Starting Pitcher 1 - Warren Spahn
-Starting Pitcher 2 - Nolan Ryan
-Relief Pitcher - Sandy Koufax
-Closer - Clemens

Now that's the first team.

Now I want you to take the best players at every position from 1900-1958.

-Catcher - Biz Mackey
-First Baseman - Sisler
-Second Baseman - Collins
-Shortstop - Wagner
-Third Baseman - Traynor
-Left Field - Babe Ruth
-Center Field - Tris Speaker
-Right Field - Ty Cobb
-Starting Pitcher 1 - Walter Johnson
-Starting Pitcher 2 - Christy Mathewson
-Relief Pitcher - Pete Alexander
-Closer - Satchel Paige

[parlo]

1958-2007

C Bench
1B McCovey
2B Morgan
SS ARod
3B Brett
OF Robinson
OF Mays
OF Aaron
SP Koufax
SP Seaver
Reliever Mariano

[Baseball Guru]

1900-1958

1B: Lou Gehrig
2B: Rogers Hornsby
SS: Honus Wagner
3B: Pie Traynor
LF: Ted Williams
CF: Ty Cobb
RF: Babe Ruth
C: Bill Dickey

SP: Walter Johnson
SP: Christy Mathewson
RP: Grover Cleveland Alexander
Closer: Firpo Marberry


1958-2008

1B: Jeff Bagwell
2B: Joe Morgan
SS: Alex Rodriguez
3B: Mike Schmidt
LF: Barry Bonds
CF: Willie Mays
RF: Hank Aaron
C: Johnny Bench

SP: Roger Clemens
SP: Greg Maddux
RP: Goose Gossage
Closer: Mariano Rivera

[Bill Burgess]

You never said if Negro League candidates were eligible. If not, I will go back and revise my listings.

[Baseball Guru]

You never said if Negro League candidates were eligible. If not, I will go back and revise my listings.

If Negro Leaguers are eligible, I'd put Mackey in as my catcher in the 1900-1958 spot...

Also, Sisler over Gehrig Bill?:noidea

[fenrir]

my choices...

1900-1958

1B: lou gehrig
2B: roger hornsby
SS: honus wagner
3B: homerun baker
LF: ted williams
CF: ty cobb
RF: babe ruth
C: yogi berra

SP: walter johnson
SP: cy young
RP: lefty grove
Closer: pete alexander


1958-2008

1B: frank thomas
2B: joe morgan
SS: arod
3B: mike schmidt
LF: barry bonds
CF: willie mays
RF: hank aaron
C: johnny bench

SP: greg maddux
SP: tom seaver
RP: randy johnson
Closer: mariano rivera

[brett]

-Catcher: Cochrane
-First Baseman: Gehrig
-Second Baseman: Collins
-Shortstop: Wagner
-Third Baseman: Baker
-Left Field: Williams
-Center Field: Cobb
-Right Field: Ruth
-Starting Pitcher 1: Walter Johnson
-Starting Pitcher 2: Grove
-Relief Pitcher: Smokey Joe Wood
-Closer: Wilhelm but he's on team 2, so ??? Alexander

Now that's the first team.

Now I want you to take the best players at every position from 1900-1958.

-Catcher: Bench
-First Baseman: Bagwell
-Second Baseman: Morgan
-Shortstop: A-Rod
-Third Baseman: Schmidt
-Left Field: Bonds
-Center Field: Mays
-Right Field: Aaron
-Starting Pitcher 1: Greg Maddux
-Starting Pitcher 2: Clemens (Randy Johnson)
-Relief Pitcher: Wilhelm
-Closer: Rivera

[Bill Burgess]

Also, Sisler over Gehrig Bill?:noidea

I have stopped ranking Sisler over Gehrig in my Top 1B rankings, but in my all-star teams, I give myself more latitude. I can't prove with numbers that George was better than Lou at their respective peaks.

But George was more my kind of player. Faster, more agile, higher BA.

[mdb]

1900-1958

C-Yogi Berra
1B-Lou Gehrig
2B-Rogers Hornsby
3B-Home Run Baker
SS-Honus Wagner
LF-Ted Williams
CF-Ty Cobb
RF-Babe Ruth
SP1-Walter Johnson
SP2-Warren Spahn
RP-Grover Cleveland Alexander
Closer-Lefty Grove

1958-present
C-Johnny Bench
1B-Frank Thomas
2B-Joe Morgan
3B-Mike Schmidt
SS-A-Rod
LF-Barry Bonds
CF-Willie Mays
RF-Hank Aaron
SP1-Tom Seaver
SP2-Greg Maddux
RP-Goose Gossage
Closer-Mariano Rivera

Good thing we had some 1900-58 starters who relieved, that made picking them easier...If only Carlton or Pedro were closers.

[Baseball Guru]

But George was more my kind of player. Faster, more agile, higher BA.

That is very "Cobb" like of you my friend