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  • I like Kirby Puckett

    I was told to read the book:
    Puck! Kirby Puckett: Baseball's Last Warrior
    I am a fan of Kirby Puckett,,I never saw him dog it down the line on a groundout... ever.
    I find a deal for the book:

    ..It looks good..I plan to enjoy reading..

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    Kirby Puckett, Twins' CF, 1987-95----------------------------------------------------1990-95---BB Reference--------------1987-95


    Kirby's Relative Stats:

    --Rel.BA-----Rel.Onbase-----Rel.Slg.---------OPS+--------Rel.ISO----PA

    ---1.19-----------1.07----------1.16-------124(t 239th)------1.12-----7,831

    Home/Away Breakdown splits---BA-----Onbase----Slg.
    Home:---------------------.344-----.388------.521
    Road:----------------------.291-----.331------.430
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    leecemark; December 3, 2004, 06:58 AM
    Cobb Wins
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    -Congratulations to Tyrus Raymond Cobb and his supporters for his victory over an extremely competitive field. I'd like to thank everyone who particiapated in the discussions on this thread. This has been easily the best of the series so far. Whether we're getting better as we go along or this was a result of the deep field of truely great players, we had some excellent debates on the merits of several players and some good side issues as well.

    1) Ty Cobb 259
    2) Willie Mays 253
    3) Mickey Mantle 209
    4) Tris Speaker 196
    5) Joe DiMaggio 182
    6) Oscar Charleston 108
    7) Ken Griffey Jr 91
    8) Duke Snider 70
    9) Cool Papa Bell 36
    10) Billy Hamilton 26
    -------------------------
    11) Richie Ashburn 25
    12) Lary Doby 23
    13) Kirby Puckett 20
    --Nobody else reached double figures
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    538280; December 17, 2005, 08:44 AM
    Poll Results
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    We had 24 ballots submitted, and it was a very close race for #1. In the end, Ty Cobb claimed his spot as the BBF #1 CFer by a slight margin over Willie Mays. Here's everyone who received 10 or more votes (first place votes in parenthesis):

    1. Ty Cobb-253 (14)
    2. Willie Mays-242 (10)
    3. Tris Speaker-175
    4. Mickey Mantle-169
    5. Joe DiMaggio-147
    6. Oscar Charleston-114
    7. Ken Griffey Jr.-82
    8. Duke Snider-55
    9. Billy Hamilton-45
    10. Cool Papa Bell-33
    11. Richie Ashburn-15
    12. Christobal Torriente-14
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Bill Burgess; May 27, 2007, 10:59 PM 29 voters

    1.) Ty Cobb - 266(15)
    2.) Willie Mays - 244(12)
    3.) Mickey Mantle - 213
    4.) Tris Speaker - 197(1)
    5.) Joe Dimaggio - 166(1)
    6.) Oscar Charleston - 119
    7.) Ken Griffey Jr. - 109
    8.) Duke Snider - 70
    9.) Billy Hamilton - 50
    10.) Cool Papa Bell - 28
    --------------------------
    11.) Kirby Puckett - 11
    12.) Spot Poles - 8
    13.) Martin Dihigo - 7
    14.) Jimmy Wynn - 7
    15.) Christobal Torriente - 5
    16.) Richie Ashburn - 5
    17.) Lary Doby - 5
    18.) Jim Edmonds - 4
    19.) Fred Lynn - 4
    20.) Hugh Duffy - 3
    21.) Paul Hines - 2
    22.) Turkey Stearns - 2
    23.) Cesar Cedeno - 1
    24.) Dale Murphy - 1
    Last edited by Bill Burgess; 05-14-2009, 02:49 PM.

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    • #3
      I don't like Kirby Puckett. People who sexually assault young women aren't my cup of tea.
      My top 10 players:

      1. Babe Ruth
      2. Barry Bonds
      3. Ty Cobb
      4. Ted Williams
      5. Willie Mays
      6. Alex Rodriguez
      7. Hank Aaron
      8. Honus Wagner
      9. Lou Gehrig
      10. Mickey Mantle

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      • #4
        The only thing I can say about Puckett, the ballplayer, was that he had an absolutely lovely swing. It was one of the prettiest swings I saw in the '80s and early-'90s.
        "In the end it all comes down to talent. You can talk all you want about intangibles, I just don't know what that means. Talent makes winners, not intangibles. Can nice guys win? Sure, nice guys can win - if they're nice guys with a lot of talent. Nice guys with a little talent finish fourth and nice guys with no talent finish last." --Sandy Koufax

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
          I don't like Kirby Puckett. People who sexually assault young women aren't my cup of tea.
          loved Kirby Puckett...but after that happened I couldn't anymore. questions about that though

          1) was it sexual assault...I thought is was more abuse and false imprisonment...I remember he dragged a women in a bathroom and wouldn't let her go

          2) was he let off the hook or did he die before the verdict?
          "Batting stats and pitching stats do not indicate the quality of play, merely which part of that struggle is dominant at the moment."

          -Bill James

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          • #6
            Kirby was a fine player but the call him baseball's last gladiator is simply ridiculous.
            Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sturg1dj View Post
              loved Kirby Puckett...but after that happened I couldn't anymore. questions about that though

              1) was it sexual assault...I thought is was more abuse and false imprisonment...I remember he dragged a women in a bathroom and wouldn't let her go

              2) was he let off the hook or did he die before the verdict?
              I hate that these things happen in any society, but especially when connected to the heroes of little kids. I was living in downtown Minneapolis when this happened, and I recently asked the same 2 questions as this poster did over 5 years ago.

              Anyway, I see GiambiJuice hated Puckett back then too, as I looked for a thread on the Twins fine CFer to see what we had. Sure enough, here is GJ proclaiming his dislike back then in one of the first posts! Hilarious! Way to stay consistent, my friend!

              I think Kirby Puckett had a very fine career. He was never a favorite of mine (he was to my Minnesotan wife and millions of other kids up there, unfortunately), and I absolutely despised him far more than GiambiJuice could ever imagine when he torched the Cardinals staff in the 1987 World Series. They guy looked like a bat boy, or a guy that sold beer and pretzels at games, not an All Star and future Hall of Fame center fielder! But there he was, always in the conversation as one of the best hitters in his league, year after year. Here are some numbers from his career:

              Kirby Puckett, Minnesota Twins, CF, 1984-1996 (age 24-35)

              .318/.360/.477
              1783 Games
              7831 PA
              7244 AB
              2304 Hits
              414 2B
              57 3B
              207 HR
              1085 RBI
              134 SB (76 CS)
              124 OPS+
              3453 TB
              50.8 WAR (baseball-reference)

              Awards etc
              Hall of Fame 2001 (82.1%)
              10 time AL All Star
              1989 AL Batting Title
              1991 ALCS MVP
              1993 ASG MVP
              1993 Branch Rickey Award
              1996 Roberto Clemente Award
              6 Gold Gloves
              6 Silver Sluggers

              Some categories he led the AL
              WAR Position Players (1992)
              Batting Average (1989)
              Hits (1987, 1988, 1989, 1992)
              RBI (1994)
              Singles (1988)
              PO in CF (1985, 1988, 1989)
              A in CF (1984, 1985, 1989)
              DP in CF (1984, 1985, 1988, 1991)
              A in RF (1994, 1995)
              PO in OF (1985, 1988, 1989)
              A in OF (1984, 1994)

              Postseason Stats
              Series ----BA/OBP/SLG---G---PA----AB--R---H---2B-3B-HR-RBI-SB-CS-BB--K--TB
              ALCS - .311/.319/.556---10----47---45--7---14--2---0--3--8---1---0---1-9--25
              WS - - .308/.393/.508---14----62---52---9--16--1---2--2--7---2---1---7-8---27
              Total--.309/.361/.536---24---109---97--16--30--3---2--5--15--3---1---8-17--52

              2 World Series Rings (1987, 1991)
              "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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              • #8
                I briefly met Kirby Puckett at the Little League World Series. I was covering the event for my television station. Earlier that day I spent a long time with Carney Lansford. I got to see his World Series ring up close. It was larger than I imagined.

                Anyway, when Kirby arrived I made the introductions.

                It went this way, of course:

                Kirby, Carney. Carney, Kirby.

                And by the way, Carney was a down to earth guy. There was not really a sense of celebrity. Just another guy enjoying the series with his son who was the same age of the players that year.

                Kirby on the other hand was aloof and did not make lot of time for the little people. He also did not look good. At the time he was almost completely round and shorter than his listed height on BBR. Just a snapshot for you…
                Last edited by Second Base Coach; 11-28-2013, 02:10 PM.
                Your Second Base Coach
                Garvey, Lopes, Russell, and Cey started 833 times and the Dodgers went 498-335, for a .598 winning percentage. That’s equal to a team going 97-65 over a season. On those occasions when at least one of them missed his start, the Dodgers were 306-267-1, which is a .534 clip. That works out to a team going 87-75. So having all four of them added 10 wins to the Dodgers per year.
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5hCIvMule0

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Second Base Coach View Post
                  I briefly met Kirby Puckett at the Little League World Series. I was covering the event for my television station. Earlier that day I spent a long time with Carney Lansford. I got to see his World Series ring up close. It was larger than I imagined.

                  Anyway, when Kirby arrived I made the introductions.

                  It went this way, of course:

                  Kirby, Carney. Carney, Kirby.

                  And by the way, Carney was a down to earth guy. There was not really a sense of celebrity. Just another guy enjoying the series with his son who was the same age of the players that year.

                  Kirby on the other hand was aloof and did not make lot of time for the little people. Just a snapshot for you…
                  That's awesome, the Carney Lansford part that is. I was a much bigger Lansford fan than a Kirby one while growing up. I liked Lansford for his sweet hitting as the Red Sox 3Bman, and later for his role on those great A's teams. Such a fine hitter, had some pop (decent for the 1980s) and later relied more on his base stealing speed in the #2 hole behind Rickey Henderson on LaRussa's awesome A's dynasty.

                  That isn't too swell on Puckett's part. As I know from growing up in the Midwest not far from Minneapolis that a lot of kids really liked Kirby Puckett. I don't know what it was about him. I mean he was obviously a fine hitter in his day, and an all star every year. But maybe he just looked like a big kid out there? Sure didn't look like a lot of other center fielders that I remember (Willie McGee, Willie Wilson, Dave Henderson, Tony Armas, Gary Pettis, Devon White, etc.)!
                  "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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                  • #10
                    I love Kirby. Wish he would have played for my team instead of Bernie.
                    Lou Gehrig is the Truest Yankee of them all!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Second Base Coach View Post
                      I briefly met Kirby Puckett at the Little League World Series. I was covering the event for my television station. Earlier that day I spent a long time with Carney Lansford. I got to see his World Series ring up close. It was larger than I imagined.

                      Anyway, when Kirby arrived I made the introductions.

                      It went this way, of course:

                      Kirby, Carney. Carney, Kirby.

                      And by the way, Carney was a down to earth guy. There was not really a sense of celebrity. Just another guy enjoying the series with his son who was the same age of the players that year.

                      Kirby on the other hand was aloof and did not make lot of time for the little people. He also did not look good. At the time he was almost completely round and shorter than his listed height on BBR. Just a snapshot for you…
                      They come in all kinds, just like people in general. As a radio announcer, I've interviewed Tommy Frazier and Chuck Foreman and they were jerks. On the other hand, When I interviewed John Randle, Mike Rozier, Dennis Leonard, and Eric Crouch, they couldn't have been nicer.
                      This week's Giant

                      #5 in games played as a Giant with 1721 , Bill Terry

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                      • #12
                        A good short video on Kirby Puckett on YouTube:

                        The Mets have the best, smartest fans in baseball.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JR Hart View Post
                          They come in all kinds, just like people in general. As a radio announcer, I've interviewed Tommy Frazier and Chuck Foreman and they were jerks. On the other hand, When I interviewed John Randle, Mike Rozier, Dennis Leonard, and Eric Crouch, they couldn't have been nicer.
                          One of my favorite pitchers in his era, I'm glad to see this. Thanks for sharing JR!
                          "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by White Knight View Post
                            I love Kirby. Wish he would have played for my team instead of Bernie.
                            Considering Williams was 26 in 1995, Puckett's final year, this statement really doesn't make any sense. I mean, if their careers were essentially concurrent I could see it, but...
                            "Hitting is better than sex." - Reggie Jackson, Esquire (March 1, 1978)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Senor Octobre View Post
                              Considering Williams was 26 in 1995, Puckett's final year, this statement really doesn't make any sense. I mean, if their careers were essentially concurrent I could see it, but...
                              I bet the Twins would have loved to have had a Bernie Williams coming in after Puck was finished! Not that it really would've helped them in those years. They did a very fine job developing and finding good young players to compete in the 2000s though. They had the "Soul Patrol" with Matt Lawton, Torii Hunter, and Jacque Jones in the OF, David Ortiz (when not hurt), excellent fielding 1Bman Doug Mientkiewicz, SS and triple-swatter Christian Guuuuuuuuuuzman (as the announcer at the Dome would say), and my favorite Corey Koskie!

                              Of course, none of those guys have anything to do with Kirby Puckett I guess. Oops.
                              "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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