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  • #61
    Originally posted by White Knight View Post
    It's not close at all, it's Bonds by a country mile. The only thing Griffey did better was hit home runs, and he barely did that better. Sure, he played a tougher position, but wasn't as good at CF as Barry was at LF. The OPS+ difference is staggering, did you miss it?
    And Bonds averaged 8 WAR, not 6.8. His 1990-99 total was 79.9 to Griffey's 67.3.
    "Any pitcher who throws at a batter and deliberately tries to hit him is a communist."

    - Alvin Dark

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    • #62
      Originally posted by AstrosFan View Post
      And Bonds averaged 8 WAR, not 6.8. His 1990-99 total was 79.9 to Griffey's 67.3.
      Whoops, you are right. I must have been looking at oWAR. I'll fix it.
      My top 10 players:

      1. Babe Ruth
      2. Barry Bonds
      3. Ty Cobb
      4. Ted Williams
      5. Willie Mays
      6. Alex Rodriguez
      7. Hank Aaron
      8. Honus Wagner
      9. Lou Gehrig
      10. Mickey Mantle

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      • #63
        I just did some digging on this. Griffey Jr was one of my favorite players and Bonds was one of my least favorite. However, after further digging, Griffey, as good as he was(ranked 13th on my all-time list), doesn't hold a candle to Bonds during the 1990s.

        Top WAR, 1990s

        Junior 9.7, 9.1, 8.7, 7.1, 6.9, 6.6, 5.8, 5.2, 4.9,3.3
        Bonds 9.9, 9.7, 9.6, 9.2, 9.0, 8.1, 8.1 7.9, 6.2, 3.8

        Bonds wins 10-0

        Top OPS+ seasons, 1990s

        Junior 171, 171, 165, 155 ,154, 150, 149 ,139, 136, 122
        Bonds 206, 204, 188, 183, 178, 174, 170, 170, 160, 156


        Top SB, 1990s
        Junior 24, 20, 18, 17, 16, 16, 15, 11, 10, 4,
        Bonds 52,43, 40, 39, 37, 31, 29, 29, 28, 15

        Bonds wins 10-0 while having a better SB%.

        I was hoping that Griffey Jr. would bury Bonds in HRS. After all, he averaged about 2 more HRS per year.

        However:

        For the 1990s, Griffey’s AB/HR ratios was 14.07; bonds 13.5

        Top AB/HR ratios, 1990s

        Bonds 10.4, 10.5, 11.7, 12.3, 13.3, 13.9, 14.9, 15.3, 15.7, 20.4
        Griffey 10.8, 10.8, 11.1, 11.3, 12.6, 12.9, 15.2, 20.9, 24.9, 27.1

        Bonds 6-4, This is very close.

        Looking at road only, Bonds was 13.9 on the road and Griffey was 15.39.

        Other than positional value, Bonds beats or crushes Griffey Jr, unfortunately.
        Last edited by pheasant; 04-16-2015, 09:21 AM.

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