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  • #31
    Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    Also the 2011 Red Sox are certainly in the conversation now and just might be the worst ever. They had a 9 game lead over Tampa on September 3rd and a 99.6% chance to reach the playoffs. They then lost 18 of their final 24 games and blew it on the final day.

    The 2011 Braves collapsed pretty awfully too but it wasn't quite as epic as the Red Sox collapse.
    It was amazing to see two teams falter so badly during the same season.
    "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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    • #32
      Originally posted by LeighMet View Post
      As my Mets completed the second greatest collpase in history 7 games with 17 to play. I think it would be wise to see what everyone thought was the greast collpase. Mine is the 1964 Phillies 6.5 games in just 12 days and yes I know it was the Phillies that defeated the Mets in 2007 which makes it all the more intresting:cap::cap:
      Statistically, the Mets' collapse was the 4th worst collapse of all time. As they had a 99.5% expectancy of making the playoffs on Sept 13

      The 2011 Red Sox are third with a 99.6% on Sept 6th

      The 1951 Dodgers are second with a 99.7% on Aug 13

      And the #1 greatest collapse of all time?
      The 1995 California Angels who, on August 24th had a 99.9% playoff expectancy.

      http://www.coolstandings.com/collapses.asp?i=1

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      • #33
        Originally posted by filihok View Post
        Statistically, the Mets' collapse was the 4th worst collapse of all time. As they had a 99.5% expectancy of making the playoffs on Sept 13

        The 2011 Red Sox are third with a 99.6% on Sept 6th

        The 1951 Dodgers are second with a 99.7% on Aug 13

        And the #1 greatest collapse of all time?
        The 1995 California Angels who, on August 24th had a 99.9% playoff expectancy.

        http://www.coolstandings.com/collapses.asp?i=1
        Cool link.

        Absolutely incredible that the 2007-2008 Mets managed to pull off two of the 22 worst collapses ever (at the time) in back-to-back seasons.
        My top 10 players:

        1. Babe Ruth
        2. Barry Bonds
        3. Ty Cobb
        4. Ted Williams
        5. Willie Mays
        6. Alex Rodriguez
        7. Hank Aaron
        8. Honus Wagner
        9. Lou Gehrig
        10. Mickey Mantle

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        • #34
          The Brooklyn Dodgers didn't collapse in 1952. The closest the Brooklyn Dodgers came to a collapse was in 1942.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
            The Brooklyn Dodgers didn't collapse in 1952. The closest the Brooklyn Dodgers came to a collapse was in 1942.
            He meant 1951.
            My top 10 players:

            1. Babe Ruth
            2. Barry Bonds
            3. Ty Cobb
            4. Ted Williams
            5. Willie Mays
            6. Alex Rodriguez
            7. Hank Aaron
            8. Honus Wagner
            9. Lou Gehrig
            10. Mickey Mantle

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            • #36
              Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
              He meant 1951.
              That was a typo on my part. 1951 was not a Dodgers collapse.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
                The Brooklyn Dodgers didn't collapse in 1952. The closest the Brooklyn Dodgers came to a collapse was in 1942.
                What about 1951 when they had a 12.5 game lead in mid-August?

                http://www.coolstandings.com/basebal...un=10365&sim=s

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                • #38
                  I'm very confused about the 1995 Angels being #1. How is losing an 8.5 game lead with 33 games remaining worse than losing a 9 game lead with 24 games remaining or a 7 game lead with 17 remaining?
                  My top 10 players:

                  1. Babe Ruth
                  2. Barry Bonds
                  3. Ty Cobb
                  4. Ted Williams
                  5. Willie Mays
                  6. Alex Rodriguez
                  7. Hank Aaron
                  8. Honus Wagner
                  9. Lou Gehrig
                  10. Mickey Mantle

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
                    That was a typo on my part. 1951 was not a Dodgers collapse.
                    Well if we're going strictly by highest odds of making the postseason and then not making it, then it was a collapse. But I agree it had more to do with the Giants incredible surge than with the Dodgers "collapsing".
                    My top 10 players:

                    1. Babe Ruth
                    2. Barry Bonds
                    3. Ty Cobb
                    4. Ted Williams
                    5. Willie Mays
                    6. Alex Rodriguez
                    7. Hank Aaron
                    8. Honus Wagner
                    9. Lou Gehrig
                    10. Mickey Mantle

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by filihok View Post
                      What about 1951 when they had a 12.5 game lead in mid-August?

                      http://www.coolstandings.com/basebal...un=10365&sim=s
                      The Dodgers played better than .500 ball in the last six weeks of the season. The Giants went 37-7. 1951 was more about the Giants great run than any Dodgers collapse.
                      Last edited by EdTarbusz; 12-26-2012, 10:20 AM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                        Well if we're going strictly by highest odds of making the postseason and then not making it, then it was a collapse. But I agree it had more to do with the Giants incredible surge than with the Dodgers "collapsing".
                        I think of a collapse as a team that suddenly starts to lose. That wasn't the case with Brooklyn in 1951. The 1950 Phillies nearly had a collapse of epic proportions.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
                          The Dodgers played better than .500 ball in the last six weeks of the season. The Giants went 37-7. 1951 was more about the Giants great run than any Dodgers collapse.
                          The Dodgers lost 8 more games during that time that if they had won at their early season pace.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by filihok View Post
                            The Dodgers lost 8 more games during that time that if they had won at their early season pace.
                            Not a collapse. They got overtaken by a team on a great run.

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                            • #44
                              The 1991 Dodgers and 1993 Giants had a big leads in the NL West but the Braves ended up winning the division.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by EdTarbusz View Post
                                Not a collapse. They got overtaken by a team on a great run.
                                Through mid-August the Dodgers played at a 103 win pace
                                From mid-August to the end of the season the Dodgers played at a 79 win pace.

                                That's a difference of 24 games

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