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  • Dock Ellis- Did he throw the no hitter on LSD?

    I want to see if people think that Ellis truly did this. Here are his own words:

    "I was in Los Angeles, and the team was playing in San Diego , but I didn't know it. I had taken LSD..... I thought it was an off-day, that's how come I had it in me. I took the LSD at noon. At 1pm, his girlfriend and trip partner looked at the paper and said, "Dock, you're pitching today!"

    I can only remember bits and pieces of the game. I was psyched. I had a feeling of euphoria. I was zeroed in on the (catcher's) glove, but I didn't hit the glove too much. I remember hitting a couple of batters and the bases were loaded two or three times. The ball was small sometimes, the ball was large sometimes, sometimes I saw the catcher, sometimes I didn't. Sometimes I tried to stare the hitter down and throw while I was looking at him. I chewed my gum until it turned to powder. They say I had about three to four fielding chances. I remember diving out of the way of a ball I thought was a line drive. I jumped, but the ball wasn't hit hard and never reached me.


    The game in question took place on 6-12-1970. In that game, he was a bit wild and struck out 6 while walking 8. I have never done LSD, so I'll have to take his word for it on what the trip was like. That's the problem with this whole thing, there is no way to disprove his statements.

    2 things that make me wonder about this: 1) He never admitted this to anyone until 1984, until Donald Hall wrote a book on him. Could he have fabricated this to sell copies (i.e. David Wells "drunk"), or had it been long enough that he remembered the wrong game. 2) If he was tripping that badly, how is it no other player, coach, or even broadcaster even seemed to notice anything unusual? If somebody did know on the club, what manager in their right mind would let him pitch that day.

    Anyway, I just want your thoughts on this.
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    Yes
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    No
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    To hard to tell.
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  • #2
    Assuming he was on acid, it doesn't sound like he had a whole hit.

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    • #3
      Whitey Herzog wrote about how Willie Aikens was playing horribly in a critical playoff game, and Whitey finally pulled him aside to see what the problem was...and he realized that his player was flying so high that he barely knew where he was.
      If a sharpie like Whitey could have a drugged out player on the field in such a game, I could believe that Ellis could have been on LSD in a regular season game without setting any alarms off.
      "I throw him four wide ones, then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on pitching to Musial

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      • #4
        thats just crazy. but i remember hearing about Ellis on fox sports or whatever its called now

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        • #5
          I thought Ellis has since retracted this.
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          • #6
            I'm assuming there's video of this somewhere, no?

            Anyways, I can't find any evidence that he retracted this statement since online, but I didn't dig too much.

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            • #7
              dallasobserver.com/news/balls out/2005-06-16/printable
              This is a seven page article/interview with Ellis.
              He thought he had an off day. Forgot that there was a doubleheader.
              The effects were wearing off by game time but were still there. The article mentions that it was quite obvious in the post game interview that he was under the influence.
              http://soundbounder.blogspot.com/

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              • #8
                Originally posted by parlo View Post
                The effects were wearing off by game time but were still there.
                Possibly most likely. It's not like he was Syd Barrett on the mound.

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                • #9
                  That is too funny.
                  He wasnt kneeling down on the mound and lighting the pitching rubber on fire, like Hendrix either.
                  http://soundbounder.blogspot.com/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by parlo View Post
                    He wasnt kneeling down on the mound and lighting the pitching rubber on fire, like Hendrix either.
                    He wasn't staring down the batter either....for 35 minutes straight!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by hellborn View Post
                      Whitey Herzog wrote about how Willie Aikens was playing horribly in a critical playoff game, and Whitey finally pulled him aside to see what the problem was...and he realized that his player was flying so high that he barely knew where he was.
                      Aikens never played for Herzog. I believe you mean John Mayberry.

                      As Dock Ellis who knows?? The guy is not exactly close friends with the truth.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KCGHOST View Post
                        Aikens never played for Herzog. I believe you mean John Mayberry.

                        As Dock Ellis who knows?? The guy is not exactly close friends with the truth.
                        Acchh...you're right about Aikens and Mayberry!
                        My mistake...thanks for correcting me, and my apologies to Aikens!
                        "I throw him four wide ones, then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on pitching to Musial

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                        • #13
                          I just read a sad article about Ellis this morning


                          http://www.latimes.com/sports/baseba....column?page=1
                          http://soundbounder.blogspot.com/

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