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    In your opinions what are the top 10 greatest baseball records. I'm not saying top 10 records that will never get beaten. I just want to know what you think is the top 10 records in Major League history?

    Here are mine in no order:

    Joe DiMaggio's hitting streak(56 games)
    Cal Ripken's iron man streak(2,632)
    Orel Hershiser's scoreless innings streak(59 innings)
    Hack Wilson's single-season RBI record (191)
    Bob Gibson's ERA in 1968(1.12)
    Cy Young's (511 wins)
    Rube Marquard's 19 wins in a row
    The 1916 Giants' 26-game winning streak
    Connie Mack's 50 years managing the same team
    Ted Williams gets a hit in 17 consecutive at bats

    It was very tough and I'm sure I miss some good ones, but those are the ones that I can think of right now. I might change my list later on.

    What about you guys?

  • #2
    Originally posted by George H Ruth View Post
    Ted Williams gets a hit in 17 consecutive at bats
    I don't think that is right



    and I don't care much for streaks since there are certain amounts of luck needed.

    and I think Joe DiMaggio's streak is more breakable than Orel's consecutive complete game shutout streak. someone may get 60 scoreless...but they won't get them with complete game shutouts.

    What about Mantle's World Series home runs?
    "Batting stats and pitching stats do not indicate the quality of play, merely which part of that struggle is dominant at the moment."

    -Bill James

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    • #3
      Guys you can take any records you want, I don't mind you giving opinions on other peoples list, but please do one yourself. I am interested to see what you think are the top 10 greatest records in Major League Baseball history.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by George H Ruth View Post
        Guys you can take any records you want, I don't mind you giving opinions on other peoples list, but please do one yourself. I am interested to see what you think are the top 10 greatest records in Major League Baseball history.
        wow...ok then

        1. Mickey Mantle WS HR
        2. Cy Young 511
        3. Rickey Henderson's SB's
        4. Pete Rose's games/ab's/hits
        5. Ty Cobb's AVG
        6. Sam Crawford's 3B's
        7. Cy Young's IP
        8. Walter Johnson's shutouts
        9. Cy's complete games
        10. 16 shutouts in a season

        unless the strategy of baseball is rethought and rules are changed I don't see how any of these will be broken. In Rose's case it took him being a player-manager to get his records.
        "Batting stats and pitching stats do not indicate the quality of play, merely which part of that struggle is dominant at the moment."

        -Bill James

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        • #5
          Although I recognize them as great records, I am not including records or achievements that are impossible (or next to) to break, given the changes in era. Cy's 511 would be such a record, and even Chief Wilson's 36 triples could be considered one. The parks are just too small today...even a guy like Reyes needs a fluke hop or a misplay in most parks to get a triple. Anyway, here goes.

          1. Ruth's .690 career SA
          (gap)
          2. Cobb's .366 career BA
          3. DiMaggio's hitting streak
          4. Johnny Mize having 51 homers with 42 strikeouts.
          5. Nolan's seven no-hitters
          6. Ruth's 119 extra-base hits
          7. Pedro's 291 ERA+
          8. Gehrig's 23 grand slams
          9. Joe Sewell's 114 strikeouts in 8329 career PA
          10 Ripken's streak (followed closely by his 350 career GIDP)

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          • #6
            1. Cy Young's career wins
            2. Cecil Fielder's tape measure home runs at Tiger Stadium
            3. Tom McCreery hitting 3 in the park home runs in 1 game
            4. 1 team scoring at least 1 run in all 9 innings of a game. No one in the AL has ever done it and only 7 have done it in the NL.
            5. Johnny Van Der Meer's back to back no hitters
            6. Joe DiMaggio's 56 game hitting streak
            7. Gagne's consecutive saves streak
            8. The 7/17/90 Twins at Red Sox game with 2 triple plays in 1 game
            9. Nolan Ryan's career strikeouts
            10. The unassisted triple play

            I listed records that are either unattainable or major fluke records. I don't find any records to be particularly coveted. More interesting baseball trivia.
            Last edited by jjpm74; 04-14-2008, 03:56 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948 View Post
              Although I recognize them as great records, I am not including records or achievements that are impossible (or next to) to break, given the changes in era. Cy's 511 would be such a record, and even Chief Wilson's 36 triples could be considered one. The parks are just too small today...even a guy like Reyes needs a fluke hop or a misplay in most parks to get a triple. Anyway, here goes.

              1. Ruth's .690 career SA
              (gap)
              2. Cobb's .366 career BA
              3. DiMaggio's hitting streak
              4. Johnny Mize having 51 homers with 42 strikeouts.
              5. Nolan's seven no-hitters
              6. Ruth's 119 extra-base hits
              7. Pedro's 291 ERA+
              8. Gehrig's 23 grand slams
              9. Joe Sewell's 114 strikeouts in 8329 career PA
              10 Ripken's streak (followed closely by his 350 career GIDP)
              This one may go soon. Manny Ramirez has 20 career grand slams. A-Rod has 16 grand slams and is three years younger than Manny.
              Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                This one may go soon. Manny Ramirez has 20 career grand slams. A-Rod has 16 grand slams and is three years younger than Manny.
                True, that's why it's low on the list. However it's on the list to begin with, because it will have lasted over 70 years.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948 View Post
                  True, that's why it's low on the list. However it's on the list to begin with, because it will have lasted over 70 years.
                  For sure. As a kid growing up watching baseball in the late 1970s me and all my baseball buddies knew that Gehrig had the all time record and that Willie McCovey was second with 18 grand slams and he also held the National League record.
                  Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post
                    2. Cecil Fielder's tape measure home runs at Tiger Stadium
                    although I was a huge Fielder fan growing up I have to ask were any of his shots records?

                    his roof shot was the 3rd and it bounced where some say Killebrew's or Howard's cleared it on the fly

                    and the longest HR's that are mentioned in Tiger Stadium history are all clearing the RF roof...be it Ruth, Mantle or Kirk Gibson

                    now one the Fielder hit that will never be broken is his home run out of Milwaukee's County Stadium...which is the only one that ever left the park!
                    "Batting stats and pitching stats do not indicate the quality of play, merely which part of that struggle is dominant at the moment."

                    -Bill James

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948 View Post
                      Although I recognize them as great records, I am not including records or achievements that are impossible (or next to) to break, given the changes in era. Cy's 511 would be such a record, and even Chief Wilson's 36 triples could be considered one. The parks are just too small today...even a guy like Reyes needs a fluke hop or a misplay in most parks to get a triple.
                      Probably a good idea

                      <1. Ruth's .690 career SA>

                      Unbelievably, I missed this one

                      <4. Johnny Mize having 51 homers with 42 strikeouts.>

                      When you include the strikeout part, that's more difficult with the changes in today's game (flamethrowers with more pitches, thinner bats)

                      <9. Joe Sewell's 114 strikeouts in 8329 career PA>

                      See Mize comment

                      <10 Ripken's streak (followed closely by his 350 career GIDP)>

                      It's a big deal that he has guys on base, isn't particularly fast, played for a long time, and gloves are bigger and fields are better?
                      Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jjpm74 View Post
                        2. Cecil Fielder's tape measure home runs at Tiger Stadium
                        Not exactly a record

                        <3. Tom McCreery hitting 3 in the park home runs in 1 game>

                        1897 might have had something to do with it

                        <10. The unassisted triple play>

                        Mostly being in the right place at the right time, and having at least one dumb baserunner
                        Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                        Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948 View Post
                          Although I recognize them as great records, I am not including records or achievements that are impossible (or next to) to break, given the changes in era. Cy's 511 would be such a record, and even Chief Wilson's 36 triples could be considered one. The parks are just too small today...even a guy like Reyes needs a fluke hop or a misplay in most parks to get a triple. Anyway, here goes.

                          1. Ruth's .690 career SA
                          (gap)
                          2. Cobb's .366 career BA
                          3. DiMaggio's hitting streak
                          4. Johnny Mize having 51 homers with 42 strikeouts.
                          5. Nolan's seven no-hitters
                          6. Ruth's 119 extra-base hits
                          7. Pedro's 291 ERA+
                          8. Gehrig's 23 grand slams
                          9. Joe Sewell's 114 strikeouts in 8329 career PA
                          10 Ripken's streak (followed closely by his 350 career GIDP)
                          Pujols came close in 2006. He had 49 HRs and 50 Ks. Sewell's record is simply amazing.
                          Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                          • #14
                            1. Ruth's career SLG - Its so far ahead of anyone else. Even Bonds barely gets over .600, Ruth spent most of his career above .700!
                            2. Cobbs stealing home total - Different game now.
                            3. Ripken's streak - Him and Gehrig were in a league of their own, i cant see someone playing every game for nearly 2 decades to beat it.
                            4. Ryans strikeouts - Clemens and Johnson are 2 of the best SO pitchers of all time and yet more than 1000 K's behind.
                            5. Dimaggio's streak - The media pressure would likely cause so much stress that it would be impossible to focus properly once someone passed Rose's total, and theres alot more games to go from that point.
                            6. Orel Hershiser's streak - Never really been challenged, i cant see anyone doing so.
                            7. Sewell's AB/SO ratio - Thanks sultan for reminding me of that one. I doubt anyone with nearly as many AB's will come close to this.
                            8. Hornsby's single season AVG (modern) - I cant see the game going back to the right setting for any more seasons like he had.
                            9. Bonds IBB single season and career totals - Rediculous numbers.
                            10. Hank Aaron's total bases - The man sure could hit.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
                              Pujols came close in 2006. He had 49 HRs and 50 Ks.
                              And Nolan came close to Johnny V.'s "record" seven times

                              No cigar.

                              The record is over 50 with under 50. Pujols did neither that year

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