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  • Albert Pujols' projected season:

    .376/.535/.635, 44 doubles, 31 home runs, 125 RBI 106 Runs 168 BB 44 SB (12 CS) 199 hits in 530 AB

    and only 44 strikeouts to boot.



    can a player nowadays ever put up a FULL season like this?

  • #2
    of course he cant, and it's pointless to even say what a player is 'on pace' to do after one month..especially when that month will almost surely be his best of the season. Will Chipper Jones bat .450? After April last season A-rod was on pace for about 200 home runs and 400 RBI...it means nothing other than a fast start.

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    • #3
      im not saying HE can/can't

      im saying theoretically can a player put up numbers like those anyomre?

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      • #4
        Albert's BB/K ratio is almost 4:1. What is considered all-time outstanding for a hitter with power?
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        • #5
          Do you mean to say can player have numbers like that WITHOUT the help of performance enhancing substances??

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          • #6
            Originally posted by willshad View Post
            Do you mean to say can player have numbers like that WITHOUT the help of performance enhancing substances??
            Adjusting for the league being more offensive now, John Olerud's 1993 numbers aren't too far off from Albert's projected numbers. Olerud isn't exactly Lou Gerhig either. As far as Albert goes, look for his BA/OB% to drop some, and his slugging to go up a little bit. Either way, he is very determined to have a good season to prove the people wrong who doubted him because of his elbow. A determined Albert is a scary Albert!
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            • #7
              If I was the Cardinals Id be more concerned with Pujols' loss of home run power, rather than impressed with his on base percentage.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by willshad View Post
                If I was the Cardinals Id be more concerned with Pujols' loss of home run power, rather than impressed with his on base percentage.
                Keep in mind, he lost a homerun due to a rainout on Opening Day. That would put him in reality on a pace for 39 homeruns (about 2 less than his career average) and 44 doubles. Keep in mind, that is 39 homeruns for a guy on pace for 170 walks. I don't think anybody is too concerned about Albert's "loss of homerun power."
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                • #9
                  Another thing to consider: Albert has also played in the new Bush a majority of his games, and Bush is a pretty one-sided pitcher's park so far. I have seen two Pujol's doubles hit off the tip of the wall this year, that would have been gone in most parks.
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                  • #10
                    The walks are just a fluke early season stat...he never even had 100 in a season before. Considering he only had 32 homers last season, and has a bad elbow, id say there's cause for concern.
                    And how does 2 stolen bases in 25 games translate to 44 for a full season?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by willshad View Post
                      The walks are just a fluke early season stat...he never even had 100 in a season before. Considering he only had 32 homers last season, and has a bad elbow, id say there's cause for concern.
                      And how does 2 stolen bases in 25 games translate to 44 for a full season?
                      This is the same bad elbow that he has played with since 2003. He will need T.J. surgery at some point, but man...what could this guy do with a healthy elbow?


                      I agree that his walks will drop some, but he will be well over 100 this year. He has nobody in the lineup at all after him. The Cardinals' lineup after Albert is very weak. 130 walks is very reasonable, and likely, in my opinion. Here is what I expect his nubers to end up around:

                      .340/.440/.620 35 HR 125 RBI 115 Runs 8 SB 125 BB 65 K

                      Not bad for a guy with a bum elbow, hitting in a pitcher's park, playing Gold Glove callibre defense.

                      I was wondering about the SB thing too. His projectd SB total should be 13 or something.
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                      • #12
                        i see more like:


                        .318/.436/.629 31 HR 117 RBI 110 Runs 11 SB 140 BB 78 K 165 OPS+

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by blackout805 View Post
                          i see more like:


                          .318/.436/.629 31 HR 117 RBI 110 Runs 11 SB 140 BB 78 K 165 OPS+
                          What a bum!
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                          • #14
                            haha much better than Ryan Howard is

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by blackout805 View Post
                              im not saying HE can/can't

                              im saying theoretically can a player put up numbers like those anyomre?
                              I think that someone could come quite close to everything in that projected stat line with the only two unlikely numbers being the 168 walks and 44 steals.

                              I don't see a right handed hitter hitting .370, but Pujols has already gone .359 I think.

                              If we get away from specific sets of stats and look at value, well, I think that a .635 slugging percentage is doable. He would have to start getting IBB'ed to get to 168 walks, and since he is so hard to K it might happen, but it would represent pitchers being more careful than in the past, and then if he walks 168 times he probably could steal 30+ bases.

                              So I am not sure he could put up that exact stat line, but he could put up one BETTER than that:

                              .350, 45 doubles, 45 home runs, 145 walks, 30 steals, .650 slugging, .500 on-base (maybe).

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