TEAM C vs. TEAM D

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Team C

2B-Joe Morgan
LF-Oscar Charleston
CF-Mickey Mantle
C-Josh Gibson
RF-Joe Dimaggio
1B-Jeff Bagwell
DH-Frank Thomas
3B-Mike Schmidt
SS-Arky Vaughan

SP Randy Johnson
SP Lefty Grove
SP Cy Young
SP Mordecai Brown
SP Satchell Paige

CL Billy Wagner

Team D

CF Ichiro Suzuki
2B Craig Biggio
RF Stan Musial
1B Albert Pujols
LF Barry Bonds*
3B Eddie Mathews
C Bill Dickey
DH Manny Ramirez
SS Pop Lloyd

SP Smokey Joe Williams
SP Johan Santana
SP John Smoltz
SP Warren Spahn
SP Whitey Ford

CL Gossage

[Bothrops Atrox]

Team C by a fairly comfortable margain.

[jjpm74]

Gibson, Mantle, Schmidt, Johnson...no comparison.

[futurehalloffamer]

Not even close, Tupac.

[brett]

Team C, though Dimaggio in right and Mantle in center might get the manager fired.

[KCGHOST]

Team C is a juggernaut.

[stejay]

Gotta be team C. DiMaggio, Mantle, Gibson(who is often over-looked), Thomas, Schmidt, Bagwell, Randy, Grove, Paige, Cy Young. Amazing team. Compared to the same players in their positions in team D. Suzuki, who is nowhere near the Mick, Musial, who was a great player, but not quite Joltin' Joe. Gibson was much better than Dickey, Thomas and Manny, however is a tightone, but Thomas just edges it. Schmidt was better than Mathews, Pujols, however, I think is better than Bagwell. Randy is better than Santana, Grove was better than Smoltz, Paige was better than Ford, and Young was better than Spahn

[jjpm74]

Are you running these teams through a sim out of curiosity? How are they stacking up against each other if so?

[stejay]

It this is running as a sim, there would be no competition.

[Edgartohof]

Team C

2B-Joe Morgan
LF-Oscar Charleston
CF-Mickey Mantle
C-Josh Gibson
RF-Joe Dimaggio
1B-Jeff Bagwell
DH-Frank Thomas
3B-Mike Schmidt
SS-Arky Vaughan

SP Randy Johnson
SP Lefty Grove
SP Cy Young
SP Mordecai Brown
SP Satchell Paige

CL Billy Wagner

Team D

CF Ichiro Suzuki
2B Craig Biggio
RF Stan Musial
1B Albert Pujols
LF Barry Bonds*
3B Eddie Mathews
C Bill Dickey
DH Manny Ramirez
SS Pop Lloyd

SP Smokey Joe Williams
SP Johan Santana
SP John Smoltz
SP Warren Spahn
SP Whitey Ford

CL Gossage

Team C wins out here by a good amount. It's really the pitching that sets them apart though.

[willshad]

Can you answer a question: Are we taking each person in their prime and having them actually play against each other? Or are we comparing the teams based on what they did overall throughout their career? That could change things. Also, how can we compare the negro league players to major leaguers?...We dont really know how good they were. Paige may have been another walter Johnson, or may have been a dud, we dont know for sure so how can we do the comparisons?

[willshad]

Team E:

2B- Rogers Hornsby
LF- Ted Williams
CF-Tris Speaker
RF-Vlad Guerrero
C- Mike Piazza
1B-Mark Mcgwire
DH-Rickey Henderson
SS-Ozzie Smith
3B- Brooks Robinson

SP Sandy Koufax
SP Roy oswalt
SP Dizzy Dean
SP Roger Clemens
SP Tom Seaver

RP Rob Dibble

How would my team do?

[AstrosFan]

Nice team Willshad, but I'd put Henderson in LF and Williams at DH. Makes much more sense defensively.

[AstrosFan]

C Fisk
1B McCovey
2B Lajoie
3B Boggs
SS Yount
LF Yastrzemski
CF Griffey Jr.
RF F. Robinson
DH Ott

SP Rogan
SP Hubbell
SP Feller
SP Marichal
SP Schilling

RP Wilhelm

Tried to go with players not selected. It's getting tougher to make a great team. Can these guys hang with any of the above?

[willshad]

yeah I thought about that afterwards....I was just looking for a DH and realized I needed a legit leadoff guy. If you had doubts about your team you could have put Ruth as RF or DH, and put Gehrig at first :-)