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    Build the best position player you can ...

    ... out of non Hall of Famers (you KNEW we had to have a companion thread). Let's say we use the following attributes to build a player out of:

    Contact hitting: Joe Jackson , Pete Browning, Ichiro , Mike Donlin?
    Plate Discipline: Barry Bonds , Eddie Stanky, Donie Bush, Eddie Yost?
    Power: Mark McGwire?
    Speed: Vince Coleman/Kenny Lofton?
    Baserunning instincts: ?
    Fielding: Mark Belanger?
    Throwing: Jesse Barfield, Rocky Colavito, Shawon Dunston?
    Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
    Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge
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  • #2
    just take Joe Jackson and leave him be.

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    • #3
      Plate Discipline: Max Bishop
      Baserunning Instincts: Willie Wilson
      Speed: Bo Jackson
      Contact Hitting: Riggs Stephenson

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RuthMayBond View Post
        Baserunning instincts: ?
        Kazuo Matsui? Sam Jethroe? Eric Byrnes? Carlos Beltran?

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        • #5
          my requirement is no active players or 1800s players, but I'll put them () though if I see maybe a better guy.


          Contact hitting: Joe Jackson
          Plate Discipline: Ferris Fain or Max Bishop.... basically a coin flip
          Power: Mark McGwire
          Speed: Rickey Henderson
          Baserunning instincts: Tim Raines (Carlos Beltran- strictly on SB% here)... I don't know who would be the best in baserunning as far as 1st to 3rd and things like that but I'm sure Raines is up there anyway
          Fielding: Johnny Mostil
          Throwing: Ken Caminiti... (just from what I've seen- I'm sure there's probably better options)

          Or you could say Barry Bonds in the early 90s.... he had all of the categories above except for throwing...
          Last edited by The Splendid Splinter; 04-28-2008, 10:21 PM.
          "Back before I injured my hip, I thought going to the gym was for wimps."
          Bo Jackson

          Actually, I think they were about the same because I lettered in all sports, and I was a two-time state decathlon champion.
          Bo Jackson

          My sophomore year I placed 2nd, and my junior and senior year - I got smart and piled up enough points between myself and second place where I didn't have to run the mile.
          Bo Jackson

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          • #6
            Contact hitting: Joe Jackson
            Plate discipline: Eddie Gaedel Or Max Bishop among real players
            Power hitting: Mark McGwire, Frank Howard
            Speed: Jim Thorpe
            Baserunning instincts: Larry Walker, Scott Rolen
            Fielding: Marty Marion, Bill Dahlen
            Throwing arm: Jesse Barfield, Bob Meusel

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            • #7
              Originally posted by blackout805 View Post
              just take Joe Jackson and leave him be.
              He probably did deserve one hypothetical Gold Glove in 1917 but I'm hoping I can think of a better fielder than a corner OF.
              Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
              Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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              • #8
                Contact and place hitting - Bill Buckner
                Power hitting - Frank Howard (Tim Jordan for an oldie)
                Speed - Willie Wilson
                Baserunning acumen - Eric Davis
                Strike zone judgment - Eddie Stanky
                OF play - Eric Davis
                IF play - Marty Marion
                OF Arm - Bo Jackson (just for firing a strike to home flat footed from the track)
                IF Arm - Shawon Dunston
                Pivot - Tommie Herr
                Leadership - Joe Carter
                Humanity - Dale Murphy
                Guts - Pete Reiser
                Dignity - Andre Dawson
                Calm Under Pressure - Buddy Biancalana
                Clutch Hitting - Jack Clark
                Brawl Presence - Frank Howard, Billy Martin
                Sense of Humor - Larry Andersen
                Last edited by hellborn; 04-29-2008, 12:03 PM. Reason: Got rid of HOFers!!!
                "I throw him four wide ones, then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on pitching to Musial

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hellborn View Post
                  Contact and place hitting - Cobb
                  Power hitting - Ruth
                  Baserunning acumen - Cobb (assuming he could tone it down for the modern game)
                  Strike zone judgment - Splinter
                  OF play - Mays
                  IF Arm - Ripken
                  Pivot - Maz
                  Leadership - Brett
                  Humanity - Musial
                  Dignity - Gehrig
                  "out of non Hall of Famers"
                  Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                  Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RuthMayBond View Post
                    "out of non Hall of Famers"
                    Boy, I'm a dope...I've fixed my choices above.
                    Sorry!
                    "I throw him four wide ones, then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on pitching to Musial

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by RuthMayBond View Post
                      ... out of non Hall of Famers (you KNEW we had to have a companion thread). Let's say we use the following attributes to build a player out of:

                      Contact hitting: Joe Jackson , Pete Browning, Ichiro , Mike Donlin?
                      Plate Discipline: Barry Bonds , Eddie Stanky, Donie Bush, Eddie Yost?
                      Power: Mark McGwire?
                      Speed: Vince Coleman/Kenny Lofton?
                      Baserunning instincts: ?
                      Fielding: Mark Belanger?
                      Throwing: Jesse Barfield, Rocky Colavito, Shawon Dunston?
                      Joe Jackson should be in there for throwing arm. When he still played with the mill hands he was able to throw the ball over four hundred feet. I know that during an all-star charity event he was in a throwing contest with Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, and Tris Speaker and won, throwing the ball 396 feet on a line.

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