Worst defensive player by position, post-1968?

[Solair Wright]

Which players by position are the worst defensively, since the year 1968? (past forty years for those unaware with my wording)

Here are the positions you are selecting from. Only one player per position can be selected. If you have more than one, then that is okay.

Pitcher
Catcher
First Base
Second Base
Third Base
Shortstop
Left Field
Center Field
Right Field

[hellborn]

Which players by position are the worst defensively, since the year 1968? (past forty years for those unaware with my wording)

Here are the positions you are selecting from. Only one player per position can be selected. If you have more than one, then that is okay.

Pitcher
Catcher
First Base
Second Base
Third Base
Shortstop
Left Field
Center Field
Right Field

Nolan Ryan
Hector Villanueva
Jason Giambi
Greg Jefferies
Miguel Cabrera
Julio Franco
Greg Luzinski
Tony Armas
Pete Incaviglia

(Inky only had one full season in RF, as a rookie...Keith Moreland for a guy with more games out there)

[RuthMayBond]

Which players by position are the worst defensively, since the year 1968? (past forty years for those unaware with my wording)

Here are the positions you are selecting from. Only one player per position can be selected. If you have more than one, then that is okay.

I have a brief list about this but would certainly like more candidates (if anyone wants to post their pre-1968 candidates too I'd love it

Pitcher-?
Catcher-Darrin Fletcher
First Base-? (I can't use Dick Stuart). Maybe Mo Vaughn?
Second Base-Steve Sax
Third Base-Chipper Jones
Shortstop-Jeter or Jose Offerman
Left Field-Greg Luzinski
Center Field-? (can't use Pete Browning)
Right Field-Pete Incaviglia (Manny used to play RF)

[parlo]

I have a brief list about this but would certainly like more candidates (if anyone wants to post their pre-1968 candidates too I'd love it

Pitcher-?
Catcher-Darrin Fletcher
First Base-? (I can't use Dick Stuart). Maybe Mo Vaughn?
Second Base-Steve Sax
Third Base-Chipper Jones
Shortstop-Jeter or Jose Offerman
Left Field-Greg Luzinski
Center Field-? (can't use Pete Browning)
Right Field-Pete Incaviglia (Manny used to play RF)

Chipper Jones, Jeter and Sax are not the worst fielders of their position in the last 40 years. They are not even close!
Soriano was worse at 2b, Butch Hobson and Elliot Maddux were worse at third, and thats just off the top of my head. Its easy to forget how many marginal players there have been in 40 years.

[whoisonit]

I have a brief list about this but would certainly like more candidates

catcher - Mike Piazza
1B - Carlos Delgado
1B, 3B, OF - Dave Kingman
OF - Jose Canseco

Jeter's a great choice for SS. He is terrible.

[RuthMayBond]

Chipper Jones, Jeter and Sax are not the worst fielders of their position in the last 40 years. They are not even close!
Soriano was worse at 2b,

Soriano did manage to lead his league in putouts twice and assists once. BP says he's better at adjusted RAA but worse at some other things.

<Butch Hobson and Elliot Maddux were worse at third>

Hobson had a rather short career (the equivalent of only about four full seasons), that wasn't even Maddox's primary position. Hobson was probably worse per game, yes.

<and thats just off the top of my head>

Still waiting for your SS

[parlo]

catcher - Mike Piazza
1B - Carlos Delgado
1B, 3B, OF - Dave Kingman
OF - Jose Canseco

Jeter's a great choice for SS. He is terrible.

Jeter did not deserve to win a Gold Glove, but that does not mean he is the worst SS in 40 years. Wilfredo Cordero is someone who would rank as one of the worst.
The problem with Jeter discussions is that people who hate the Yankees, are completely biased in their assessment. At the same time Yankee fans overvalue his fielding. Jeter may be below average, but he is hardly the worst in 40 years.

A good red flag to look for is an infielder who was switched to the OF or DH at an early age. Juan Samuel, Cordero, Soriano, etc

[hellborn]

...
Pitcher-?
...
Second Base-Steve Sax
Third Base-Chipper Jones
Shortstop-Jeter or Jose Offerman
...

You've just gotta check out Ryan's fielding stats...I do remember that he would act like he had just picked up a live grenade when he fielded a ball and would usually do something stupid with it before the thing blew his dang head off.
I thought Sax was pretty good before he caught his throwing disease...guess you can't really ignore that, though. Same thing happened to Knoblauch. Mackey Sasser caught the same bug at C.
I thought Chipper was OK at 3B before he got old...???
Jose Offerman is a great choice for SS, maybe better than me picking Franco. I was going to say Toby Harrah because I remember him just being a slug out there, but his numbers looked OK...guess I only saw a tiny portion of his career at SS. Franco looked uncomfortable at SS and 2B to me, but Offerman was just incompetent at SS.

[RuthMayBond]

Jeter did not deserve to win a Gold Glove, but that does not mean he is the worst SS in 40 years. Wilfredo Cordero is someone who would rank as one of the worst.

For all three years, you can only do so much damage

[parlo]

For all three years, you can only do so much damage

Exactly! If someone is truly one of the worst fielding SS of the last 40 years, they are going to be moved to another position, or be cut. The position is too critical. Thats why Cordero was moved. Thats why Offerman was moved. They were liabilities at SS. And thats what I thought the discussion was about.

[parlo]

Nolan Ryan
Hector Villanueva
Jason Giambi
Greg Jefferies
Miguel Cabrera
Julio Franco
Greg Luzinski
Tony Armas
Pete Incaviglia

(Inky only had one full season in RF, as a rookie...Keith Moreland for a guy with more games out there)

I remember those mid/late 90s Phillies OF with Incaviglia , Jefferies, and even Darren Daulton. Painful.

[RuthMayBond]

Exactly! If someone is truly one of the worst fielding SS of the last 40 years, they are going to be moved to another position, or be cut. The position is too critical. Thats why Cordero was moved. Thats why Offerman was moved. They were liabilities at SS. And thats what I thought the discussion was about.

We could find guys who were moved quicker

[parlo]

Ryan Braun and Butch Hobson have had the two worst seasons at 3B in regard to fielding %.

[NineWorldSeries]

Adam Dunn at LF?

[RuthMayBond]

Adam Dunn at LF

Yes, but what position does he play?