10 Best dead-ball players

[Tyrus4189Cobb]

Go ahead and make a list of your best dead-ball era player up to ten. Pitchers not included.

1) Ty Cobb
2) Honus Wagner
3) Tris Speaker
4) Nap Lajoie
5) Joe Jackson
6) Eddie Collins
7) Zack Wheat
8) Ed Delahanty
9) Willie Keeler
10) Sam Crawford

[TigerNation]

umm.... Joe Jackson? He is definitly top 3 and arguably one of the 10 greatest players of all-time.

[rsuriyop]

Go ahead and make a list of your best dead-ball era player up to ten. Pitchers not included.

Can this include purely 19th century players as well?

[Blackout]

1 ty cobb
2 tris speaker
3 joe jackson
4 honus wagner (maybe better than jackson)
5 nap lajoie
6 home run baker
7 sam crawford
8 eddie collins
9 george burns
10 alot of candidates

[leecemark]

1) Honus Wagner
2) Ty Cobb
3) Tris Speaker
4) Eddie Collins
5) Nap Lajoie
6) Sam Crawford
7) Frank Baker
8) Fred Clarke
9) Joe Jackson
10) George Davis

[dgarza]

1900-1920
1. Ty Cobb
2. Honus Wagner
3. Tris Speaker
4. Napoleon Lajoie
5. Eddie Collins
6. Sam Crawford
7. Joe Jackson
8. Frank Baker
9. George Sisler
10. Willie Keeler

1860-1920
1. Ty Cobb
2. Honus Wagner
3. Tris Speaker
4. Napoleon Lajoie
5. Eddie Collins
6. Dan Brouthers
7. Cap Anson
8. Ed Delahanty
9. Sam Crawford
10. Roger Connor

[Bill Burgess]

My slate of candidates for Top 12 Deadball Players. Numbers which follow indicate Bill James' rankings as of 2001. If Negro Leaguers had been allowed, I'd have inserted some, since they continued to play deadball their entire run.

I define 'Deadball' as everything before 1920. I disregard the little labels that others use.

1. Ty Cobb 5
2. Honus Wagner 2
3. Tris Speaker 10
4. Eddie Collins 16
5. Nap Lajoie 33
6. Buck Ewing - C17
7. Joe Jackson 52
8. Cap Anson - 1B11
9. Herman Long - SS34
10. Hughie Jennings - SS18
11 Sam Crawford 74
12. Mike "King" Kelly

Honorable Mentions: Zack Wheat, Edd Roush

[Bothrops Atrox]

Joe Jackson? Top 10 ever? Behind King Kelly? Jackson has got to be one of the most polarizing players who is vastly overrated by traditionalist as much as he is underatted by other fans. See: George Sisler

[nerfan]

1. Wagner.
2. Cobb
3. Speaker
4. Lajoie
5. Collins
6. Jackson
7. Sisler
8. Crawford
9. Baker
10. George Davis

[RubeWaddell19]

My 2 cents...
1. Wagner (without a doubt)
2. Cobb
3. Collins
4. Anson
5. Speaker
6. Sisler
7. Keeler
8. Sliding Billy Hamilton
9. Ed Delahanty
10 Baker

[jjpm74]

1. Honus Wagner
2. Ty Cobb
3. Dan Brouthers
4. Eddie Collins
5. Ed Delehanty
6. Tris Speaker
7. Buck Ewing
8. Roger Connor
9. Hughie Jennings
10. Cristobal Torriente

[KCGHOST]

1. Ty Cobb
2 Honus Wagner
3 Ed Delahanty
4 Nap Lajoie
5 Billy Hamilton
6 Jesse Burkett
7 Tris Speaker
8 Sam Crawford
9 Joe Jackson
10 Eddie Collins

[leecemark]

--The deadball era as I see it was the first 2 decades of the 20th century. The ball was dead the extent that it was hard to hit over the fence (where there was a fence) earlier, but the 1890s were one of the most explosive offensive eras in history. Its hard to mix those guys in with the deadball guys. The 1870s and 80s were also fairly high scoring, but that was largely due to the difficulties of playing defense with no gloves on poor fields.

[Tyrus4189Cobb]

I didn't put Joe Jackson in my list because... I forgot. I was compiling the list and thought I had put him in the number 5 slot, but I guess I didn't. I will go right now and change that.

[cbenson5]

Hey Tyrus, it is good to see you back. I hope all has been well. I'll take a stab at this:

1. Ty Cobb
2. Honus Wagner
3. Tris Speaker
4. Eddie Collins
5. Nap Lajoie
6. Ed Delahanty
7. Cap Anson
8. Joe Jackson
9. Buck Ewing
10 Sam Crawford