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  • #31
    Originally posted by BSmile View Post
    The Babe made several trips to my old hometown of Hartford, CT.
    Here he is in 1943...
    Wow, the Babe was looking very portly in 1943!
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
      Wow, the Babe was looking very portly in 1943!
      Babe, Claire, and Julia all seemed to track each other in weight gains and losses after Babe's playing career ended...never saw a photo of Dorothy looking chunky. One of my books showed a photo of the three with a caption that suggested nobody was going hungry in their household!
      That same book, "The Babe: A Life in Pictures", shows some photos of Ruth barnstorming in CA...might be Dunsmuir. There is a great photo of Babe posed at home plate with a packed grandstand behind him. I'll peek at the book tonight to make sure of the location. There are a lot of photos from the "Bustin Babe's and Larrupin Lou's" barnstorming tours, but I don't think any of those were from CA.
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      • #33
        Indiana - May 6, 1927

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        • #34
          Originally posted by hellborn View Post
          Babe, Claire, and Julia all seemed to track each other in weight gains and losses after Babe's playing career ended...never saw a photo of Dorothy looking chunky. One of my books showed a photo of the three with a caption that suggested nobody was going hungry in their household!
          That same book, "The Babe: A Life in Pictures", shows some photos of Ruth barnstorming in CA...might be Dunsmuir. There is a great photo of Babe posed at home plate with a packed grandstand behind him. I'll peek at the book tonight to make sure of the location. There are a lot of photos from the "Bustin Babe's and Larrupin Lou's" barnstorming tours, but I don't think any of those were from CA.
          You may be referring to this one. Dunsmuir California.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by hellborn View Post
            Babe, Claire, and Julia all seemed to track each other in weight gains and losses after Babe's playing career ended...never saw a photo of Dorothy looking chunky. One of my books showed a photo of the three with a caption that suggested nobody was going hungry in their household!That same book, "The Babe: A Life in Pictures", shows some photos of Ruth barnstorming in CA...might be Dunsmuir. There is a great photo of Babe posed at home plate with a packed grandstand behind him. I'll peek at the book tonight to make sure of the location. There are a lot of photos from the "Bustin Babe's and Larrupin Lou's" barnstorming tours, but I don't think any of those were from CA.
            I recall seeing that picture and that caption some time ago, may be from the same book.

            My opinion, Babe may not have seen 700 if not for Claire. I could easily see her adding at least one year to his career. Married in 1929 she reigned in his eating and drinking habits. Sure she wasn't with him all the time but time enough. Not only living together but she often traveled with the team. That was six years from his retirement had to have some effect on him. What if she was not there from 1929-1935.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by SHOELESSJOE3 View Post
              You may be referring to this one. Dunsmuir California.
              You da man! The exact photo!

              I agree that Claire did help rein in Ruth's excesses...but, he did OK at getting himself back into shape after '22 and '25, would hit the gym hard in the offseason. Who knows what would have happened without her as he got older, though. But, after he stopped playing, they both ballooned up and down a lot...there's one photo in that book where Claire has to weigh something like 250, if not more. That was exceptional, though, and she looked quite thin when Babe was really sick...worrying about his condition might have had something to do with that.

              EDIT - I have to admit that I initially misread your post...I thought that you were saying Ruth may have seen 700 POUNDS, instead of not seeing 700HRs! I amuse myself with my obtusity sometimes...
              Last edited by hellborn; 05-27-2008, 06:18 AM.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by hellborn View Post
                You da man! The exact photo!

                I agree that Claire did help rein in Ruth's excesses...but, he did OK at getting himself back into shape after '22 and '25, would hit the gym hard in the offseason. Who knows what would have happened without her as he got older, though. But, after he stopped playing, they both ballooned up and down a lot...there's one photo in that book where Claire has to weigh something like 250, if not more. That was exceptional, though, and she looked quite thin when Babe was really sick...worrying about his condition might have had something to do with that.

                Certainly no way to tell had claire not come along. Of course he was younger in 1922 and 1925. What I'm thinking, no Claire from 1929 to 1935, would his off field activities been the same. Could have married another woman but Claire was no pansy, she was strong and had some influence on The Babe. It was rumored that in the early years of their marriage that Claire made an offer to the Yankee owners that was hard to refuse. If the owners would pay for the road hotels she would travel with the Babe. Sounds like a good deal, someone to keep a check on their franchise player. This lasted the first few years. Even if we assume she didn't add any calendar year to his career would he have performed the same those years 1929-1935.

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                • #38
                  I'm from Baltimore, was Ruth ever there?

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                  • #39
                    Baltimore

                    April 5, 1916
                    2 times in April of 1916, again in Sep.

                    He was there 15 times in all through 1932 and hit homers in
                    about half the appearances. Played the Orioles each time except
                    once in Sep of 1919.
                    Enjoy the research!

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                    • #40
                      I'm pretty sure i've seen references to Babe Ruth being in Richmond, Indiana. I'm not quite sure what it means about not being able to do anything in the state, though. Indiana even has casinos.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by SHOELESSJOE3 View Post
                        Certainly no way to tell had claire not come along. Of course he was younger in 1922 and 1925. What I'm thinking, no Claire from 1929 to 1935, would his off field activities been the same. Could have married another woman but Claire was no pansy, she was strong and had some influence on The Babe. It was rumored that in the early years of their marriage that Claire made an offer to the Yankee owners that was hard to refuse. If the owners would pay for the road hotels she would travel with the Babe. Sounds like a good deal, someone to keep a check on their franchise player. This lasted the first few years. Even if we assume she didn't add any calendar year to his career would he have performed the same those years 1929-1935.
                        Claire certainly took control of the checkbook...I think their rule was that Babe could have as much money as he wanted, but it was provided in $100 checks signed by Claire. I think the idea was that he'd get sick of waiting for her to write them out if he asked for a huge pile of money, or he'd be embarrassed to ask for too much.
                        It's hard to say, but I wonder if Helen's psychological problems were due in part to Babe's wild lifestyle...clearly, in Claire, Babe had a woman who had the strength and will to rein him in, at least somewhat. But, Babe was able to enjoy being married to a much younger and very appealing woman...and, he may have been ready to slow things down due to age, anyway.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by hellborn View Post
                          Claire certainly took control of the checkbook...I think their rule was that Babe could have as much money as he wanted, but it was provided in $100 checks signed by Claire. I think the idea was that he'd get sick of waiting for her to write them out if he asked for a huge pile of money, or he'd be embarrassed to ask for too much.
                          It's hard to say, but I wonder if Helen's psychological problems were due in part to Babe's wild lifestyle...clearly, in Claire, Babe had a woman who had the strength and will to rein him in, at least somewhat. But, Babe was able to enjoy being married to a much younger and very appealing woman...and, he may have been ready to slow things down due to age, anyway.
                          Right on with the checks. Some weeks ago I posted a check Babe used.....signed by him and Claire.

                          Supposedly Babe's wild ways did have some impact on Helen. Not only his party ways it was what else his early fame brought on, the public reaction to Babe. Helen was not Claire, 180 degrees here, Claire was a woman of the world, loved the spotlight.

                          Helen never cared for the world that Babe's fame brought on. The phone never stopped ringing, all kinds of offers coming his way, even calls from some fans. It actually got to Babe, changed his phone number so many times he and Helen had trouble remembering the number.

                          She didn't like the crowds in restaurants, people staring, people outside glaring at them. Remember no TV back then, seeing Babe on the street a big deal. Read one article that told of her and Babe in a cab, suddenly surrounded by young boys, some on the hood, others pounding on the windows, she broke down crying. Two days later she was admitted to a hospital suffering with what they called "nervous exhaustion."

                          She was not built for this lifestyle.

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                          • #43
                            He never barnstormed my town but he did barnstorm my dads town.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by hellborn View Post
                              Claire certainly took control of the checkbook...I think their rule was that Babe could have as much money as he wanted, but it was provided in $100 checks signed by Claire. I think the idea was that he'd get sick of waiting for her to write them out if he asked for a huge pile of money, or he'd be embarrassed to ask for too much.
                              It's hard to say, but I wonder if Helen's psychological problems were due in part to Babe's wild lifestyle...clearly, in Claire, Babe had a woman who had the strength and will to rein him in, at least somewhat. But, Babe was able to enjoy being married to a much younger and very appealing woman...and, he may have been ready to slow things down due to age, anyway.
                              I believe it was $50 at a time.
                              "By common consent, Ruth was the hardest hitter of history; a fine fielder, if not a finished one; an inspired base runner, seeming to do the right thing without thinking. He had the most perfect co-ordination of any human animal I ever knew." - Hugh Fullerton, 1936 (Chicago sports writer, 1893-1930's)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
                                I'm pretty sure i've seen references to Babe Ruth being in Richmond, Indiana. I'm not quite sure what it means about not being able to do anything in the state, though. Indiana even has casinos.

                                Yeah most of them are riverboat casinos and the ones on land has to be new or exceptions. I believe Indiana has a law or something regarding to casinos on land. There's not much excitement in Indiana is what I meant by "not being
                                able to do anything." At least to me anyway... it probably has to do with me being from a very small town in Indiana (Earl Park- maybe 300 people on a good day) and cornfield for miles. Although Indianapolis are starting to get things where people are visiting to and we're building the world largest wind farm in my county, which is pretty cool to see when you're driving through. We're supposed to get like 1,100 windmills there. We're just big on college sports, drinking, and possum hunting.

                                I figured Babe might've been to Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, and Gary for his barnstorming tours. I'll have to check out the newspaper for when he was here.
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