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    who do you think are the top dh's off all time are im going with

    egar martinez , paul molitor , harold baines , andre thornton , frank thomas , don baylor , hal mcrae , chili davis , ken phelps and cliff johnson
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    Dave Parker did a nice job for Oakland. I'll have to make an actual comparison as DH's to see if he was good enugh to crack your top ten. Same with Reggie.
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    • #3
      How do we define DH? Do we define as someone that spent the majority of their career as a DH or someone that spent at least one full season there? Then, you have to consider how you treat the numbers from when the player wasn't a DH? There are just too many questions for me to list a top ten. I do think Edgar is the best though.
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      • #4
        It's not a particularly complimentary distinction, in fact many, including myself would argue that it is not a "distinction" at all to be a DH.

        Edgar Martinez may have had a distinguished career as a hitter, but being the best DH of all time does nothing to make his offensive achievments more impressive, to the contrary rather.

        I'm surprised how often this discussion comes up.
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        • #5
          I define a DH as someone who played that position more than any other single position in their career.

          With that, the top 10 DH.

          1.Paul Molitor
          2.Edgar Martinez
          3.Harold Baines
          4-10.Blah

          If frank thoams stays healthy enoug this season, maybe he can play 12 games and take over first place asthe best DH.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by mrmet042
            who do you think are the top dh's off all time are im going with

            egar martinez , paul molitor , harold baines , andre thornton , frank thomas , don baylor , hal mcrae , chili davis , ken phelps and cliff johnson
            Frank Thomas is NOT a DH!

            Baines and Molitor would be questionable as they played other positons more, as did most, but they really stand out.

            What about the first DH, Ron Blomberg???
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            • #7
              --Frank Thomas will almost certainly end his career having played more DH than 1B and be the best DH ever, for what thats worth (not much IMO). Another majority DH who deserves some recognition in this discussion is Hal McRae. He's got to be one of the 10 best to play most of his games at serial pinch hitter.

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              • #8
                Brian Downing certainly deserves some mention here.

                Going by only DH performance, I don't think Frank Thomas is quite as good as Edgar Martinez. He always did hit much better as a first baseman.

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                • #9
                  It doesn't matter how much a guy actually played in the field. Allwe have to evaluate is how productive he was when he actually DHed. I'm going with:

                  Edgar Martinez
                  Frank Thomas
                  Paul Molitor
                  Hal McRae
                  Harold Baines
                  Chili Davis
                  Oscar Gamble
                  David Ortiz
                  Brian Downing
                  Travis Hafner

                  Obviously, Ortiz and Hafner could end up at the top of this list if they stay DH's through the remainder of their careers.
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                  • #10
                    Here's mine:
                    1. Frank Thomas
                    2. Paul Molitor
                    3. Edgar Martinez
                    4. Hal McRae
                    5. Harold Baines
                    6. Don Baylor
                    7. Chili Davis
                    8. David Ortiz
                    9. Travis Hafner
                    10. Andre Thornton
                    -------
                    11. Brian Downing

                    Not ranked, but I couldn't pass up mentioning:
                    HM. Ron Blomberg
                    HM. Ken Phelps

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                    • #11
                      1. Frank Thomas
                      2. Edgar Martinez
                      3. Paul Molitor
                      4. Harold Baines
                      5. Don Baylor
                      6. David Ortiz
                      7. Chili Davis
                      8. Hal McRae
                      9. Andre Thorton
                      10. Brian Downing
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                      • #12
                        1. Thomas
                        2. Martinez
                        3. Molitor
                        4. Baines
                        5. McRae or Baylor...

                        gets too hard after that. Davis' good long carer, or Ortiz' great 2-3 seasons, etc.
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                        • #13
                          Using KCGHOST's definition:

                          1. Edgar Martinez
                          2. Frank Thomas
                          3. Paul Molitor
                          4. Hal McRae
                          5. Harold Baines
                          6. Chili Davis
                          7. Oscar Gamble
                          8. David Ortiz
                          9. Brian Downing
                          10. Travis Hafner
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KCGHOST
                            It doesn't matter how much a guy actually played in the field. Allwe have to evaluate is how productive he was when he actually DHed. I'm going with:
                            So does that mean that we rate Pete Rose, Ernie Banks, Robin Yount, Rod Carew in their positions based only on what they did at their positions? That would certainly skew rankings, wouldn't it? Same logic.

                            As for this poll,
                            When Frank Thomas plays more games DHing than at 1B, he'll be BY FAR number 1, but until then

                            1.Paul Molitor
                            2.Harold Baines
                            3.Edgar Martinez
                            4.Nobody to mention.

                            We just did this a couple months ago, didn't we?
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                            I hope that's all.

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