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  • #31
    Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules
    Sultan,

    Here the best I could do...

    C-Brandon Inge
    1B-Brad Wilkerson
    2B-Brain Roberts
    3B-Eric Chavez
    SS-Rafael Furcal
    LF-Juan Pierre
    CF-Andrew Jones
    RF-Carlos Beltran
    DH-Travis Hanfer

    SP-Mark Mulder
    SP-Roy Halladay
    SP-Roy Oswalt
    SP-Kerry Wood
    SP-Adam Eaton

    RP-Danny Baez
    RP-Mike McDougal
    RP-Shawn Chacon
    Cool, thanks

    Those guys might give '68 a challenge

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    • #32
      Originally posted by RuthMayBond
      <1851 472.8 Tom York 0.308 0.384 0.692 4201>

      Where do you have Orator Shaffer?

      <1869 846.7 Tommy Corcoran 0.287 0.335 0.622 9186>
      Orator comes in second in terms of runs created, Orator has the better OBP, york the better SLG and more PA

      Hughie Jennigs comes in at a distant third because of playing time issues. Hughie probably is the best quality player born this year.

      I have Lajoie born in 1874


      Gavvy comes in third and again because of playing time. He is again probably the best quality player of 1881.

      Seems to me this is where something like over replacement level when be good.


      I have Gwynn born in 1960

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948
        Could someone do a 1977 team for me? I have no idea how you're finding that info.

        The twenty best hitters are:
        Code:
        First	nameLast
        Andruw	Jones
        Carlos	Beltran
        Eric	Chavez
        Rafael	Furcal
        Juan	Pierre
        Brad	Wilkerson
        Alex	Gonzalez
        Jay	Gibbons
        Jack	Wilson
        Eric	Hinske
        Brian	Roberts
        Travis	Hafner
        D'Anglo Jimenez
        Aaron	Rowand
        Lyle	Overbay
        Orlando	Hudson
        Craig	Monroe
        Brandon	Inge
        Mark	Ellis
        Ty	Wigginton

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        • #34
          Hey, lets make a BBF Member 1988 all-star team. =P

          Pertaining to the age/memory thing, my first distinct memory of a baseball game was the 1995 world series, making me 7 and 1/4.
          Last edited by The Dude; 03-28-2006, 09:05 PM.
          AL East Champions: 1981 1982
          AL Pennant: 1982
          NL Central Champions: 2011
          NL Wild Card: 2008

          "It was like coming this close to your dreams and then watching them brush past you like a stranger in a crowd. At the time you don't think much of it; you know, we just don't recognize the significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, 'Well, there'll be other days.' I didn't realize that that was the only day." - Moonlight Graham

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          • #35
            My first distinct memory is a ball going through Leon Durham's legs.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules
              Players born in 1989 are not yet eligible to play professional ball until June 2007.
              How do you figure?

              From what I understand, international players are eligible to be signed at age 16. Technically, they can make the majors immediately after.

              And is there really a hard and fast rule as to being 18 before you can be drafted? I was 16 when I graduated high school; could I not have been drafted immediately afterwards?
              "Simply put, the passion, interest and tradition surrounding baseball in New York is unmatched."

              Sean McAdam, ESPN.com

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ElHalo
                How do you figure?

                From what I understand, international players are eligible to be signed at age 16. Technically, they can make the majors immediately after.

                And is there really a hard and fast rule as to being 18 before you can be drafted? I was 16 when I graduated high school; could I not have been drafted immediately afterwards?
                ElHalo,

                I was referring to American born players. You are correct, teams do sign non-American born prospects at age 16 and thus they can theoretically play in the majors at age 16. Also I believe American born kids can't be drafted before their high school graduating class graduates, or something like that. How often do you see American born 16 year old high school grads being drafted?
                Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 03-28-2006, 09:20 PM.
                Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by RuthMayBond
                  Ain't anyone here born in 1931 or 1951 or 1944 or 1934 or 1938 or 1945?
                  Bring it on! The 1968 team may have up to eight HoFers.
                  Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 03-28-2006, 09:20 PM.
                  Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                  • #39
                    The 1968 team has some names but some of them are empty names. Sammy and Gary have juicin problems and are more personal ego then substance. Bernie was a Yankee which makes him greater then he actually was (not saying he wasn't great), Jose Offerman is the ugly red-headed stepchild of the group with Piazza, Bagwell, and Alomar being legit great players. Leaving Kent who was shoe-horned into the third base spot. What the 1968 team does have is depth. Jeff Bagwell-Frank Thomas-Olerud. Alomar-Kent-Knoblauch. Sheffield-Sosa

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                    • #40
                      1972 is not a bad year either with only SS and 2B being weak

                      C: Varitek or Lieberthal
                      1B: Carlos Delgado
                      2B: Tony Graffanino
                      3B: Chipper Jones
                      SS: Deivi Cruz
                      LF: Manny Ramirez
                      CF: Rondell White
                      RF: Shawn Green

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Ubiquitous
                        The 1968 team has some names but some of them are empty names. Sammy and Gary have juicin problems and are more personal ego then substance. Bernie was a Yankee which makes him greater then he actually was (not saying he wasn't great), Jose Offerman is the ugly red-headed stepchild of the group with Piazza, Bagwell, and Alomar being legit great players. Leaving Kent who was shoe-horned into the third base spot. What the 1968 team does have is depth. Jeff Bagwell-Frank Thomas-Olerud. Alomar-Kent-Knoblauch. Sheffield-Sosa
                        Umm...Sheffield was a great player before the "juice", going back to 1992. Sammy was a fine player when he was a young lithe outfielder, 30-30 man with wheels and a great (if erratic) arm. Bernie was a very good player in his prime. Offerman was the best I could do for a SS. I'm sure Kent would have no problem moving over to help the '68 team. If not there's also Dean Palmer.
                        Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Ubiquitous
                          The 1968 team has some names but some of them are empty names. Sammy and Gary have juicin problems and are more personal ego then substance. Bernie was a Yankee which makes him greater then he actually was (not saying he wasn't great), Jose Offerman is the ugly red-headed stepchild of the group with Piazza, Bagwell, and Alomar being legit great players. Leaving Kent who was shoe-horned into the third base spot. What the 1968 team does have is depth. Jeff Bagwell-Frank Thomas-Olerud. Alomar-Kent-Knoblauch. Sheffield-Sosa
                          Ordinarily wouldn't say this, but Williams is one of the very few Yankees who's actually underrated. Fantastic fielder and hitter in his prime, with great contact hitting and on base skills, solid power, and an ability to absolutely carry teams for long stretches (he was always a streaky player, running cold for a while and then going on tears where he'd hit .460 for a month and a half). His tremendously quick and steep decline has made a lot of people forget about this.
                          "Simply put, the passion, interest and tradition surrounding baseball in New York is unmatched."

                          Sean McAdam, ESPN.com

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                          • #43
                            Sammy before 1998 had this line, .251/.300/.480 with bad defensive mistakes (Manny-esque?) and the truth is we don't really know when Gary started using drugs. It already looks like he lied in his deposition.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Ubiquitous
                              Sammy before 1998 had this line, .251/.300/.480 with bad defensive mistakes (Manny-esque?) and the truth is we don't really know when Gary started using drugs. It already looks like he lied in his deposition.
                              Except that Sammy had speed and a good arm and he was nowhere near as bad as Manny. Also the line you gave was dragged way down by his first four years when he sucked. From 1993-97 Sammy was a fine player.
                              Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ubiquitous
                                Sammy before 1998 had this line, .251/.300/.480 with bad defensive mistakes (Manny-esque?) and the truth is we don't really know when Gary started using drugs. It already looks like he lied in his deposition.
                                Exactly, we don't know. He could have started in 1990 or 2004, who knows?
                                Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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