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Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules
Those guys might give '68 a challenge
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Cool, thanks
Those guys might give '68 a challenge
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Orator comes in second in terms of runs created, Orator has the better OBP, york the better SLG and more PAOriginally posted by RuthMayBond
Hughie Jennigs comes in at a distant third because of playing time issues. Hughie probably is the best quality player born this year.
I have Lajoie born in 1874
Gavvy comes in third and again because of playing time. He is again probably the best quality player of 1881.
Seems to me this is where something like over replacement level when be good.
I have Gwynn born in 1960Comment
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Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948
The twenty best hitters are:
Code:First nameLast Andruw Jones Carlos Beltran Eric Chavez Rafael Furcal Juan Pierre Brad Wilkerson Alex Gonzalez Jay Gibbons Jack Wilson Eric Hinske Brian Roberts Travis Hafner D'Anglo Jimenez Aaron Rowand Lyle Overbay Orlando Hudson Craig Monroe Brandon Inge Mark Ellis Ty Wigginton
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Hey, lets make a BBF Member 1988 all-star team. =P
Pertaining to the age/memory thing, my first distinct memory of a baseball game was the 1995 world series, making me 7 and 1/4.Last edited by The Dude; 03-28-2006, 08:05 PM.AL East Champions: 1981 1982
AL Pennant: 1982
NL Central Champions: 2011
NL Wild Card: 2008
"It was like coming this close to your dreams and then watching them brush past you like a stranger in a crowd. At the time you don't think much of it; you know, we just don't recognize the significant moments of our lives while they're happening. Back then I thought, 'Well, there'll be other days.' I didn't realize that that was the only day." - Moonlight Graham
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My first distinct memory is a ball going through Leon Durham's legs.Comment
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How do you figure?Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules
From what I understand, international players are eligible to be signed at age 16. Technically, they can make the majors immediately after.
And is there really a hard and fast rule as to being 18 before you can be drafted? I was 16 when I graduated high school; could I not have been drafted immediately afterwards?"Simply put, the passion, interest and tradition surrounding baseball in New York is unmatched."
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ElHalo,Originally posted by ElHalo
I was referring to American born players. You are correct, teams do sign non-American born prospects at age 16 and thus they can theoretically play in the majors at age 16. Also I believe American born kids can't be drafted before their high school graduating class graduates, or something like that. How often do you see American born 16 year old high school grads being drafted?Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 03-28-2006, 08:20 PM.Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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Bring it on! The 1968 team may have up to eight HoFers.Originally posted by RuthMayBondLast edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 03-28-2006, 08:20 PM.Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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The 1968 team has some names but some of them are empty names. Sammy and Gary have juicin problems and are more personal ego then substance. Bernie was a Yankee which makes him greater then he actually was (not saying he wasn't great), Jose Offerman is the ugly red-headed stepchild of the group with Piazza, Bagwell, and Alomar being legit great players. Leaving Kent who was shoe-horned into the third base spot. What the 1968 team does have is depth. Jeff Bagwell-Frank Thomas-Olerud. Alomar-Kent-Knoblauch. Sheffield-SosaComment
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1972 is not a bad year either with only SS and 2B being weak
C: Varitek or Lieberthal
1B: Carlos Delgado
2B: Tony Graffanino
3B: Chipper Jones
SS: Deivi Cruz
LF: Manny Ramirez
CF: Rondell White
RF: Shawn GreenComment
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Umm...Sheffield was a great player before the "juice", going back to 1992. Sammy was a fine player when he was a young lithe outfielder, 30-30 man with wheels and a great (if erratic) arm. Bernie was a very good player in his prime. Offerman was the best I could do for a SS. I'm sure Kent would have no problem moving over to help the '68 team.Originally posted by Ubiquitous If not there's also Dean Palmer.
Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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Ordinarily wouldn't say this, but Williams is one of the very few Yankees who's actually underrated. Fantastic fielder and hitter in his prime, with great contact hitting and on base skills, solid power, and an ability to absolutely carry teams for long stretches (he was always a streaky player, running cold for a while and then going on tears where he'd hit .460 for a month and a half). His tremendously quick and steep decline has made a lot of people forget about this.Originally posted by Ubiquitous"Simply put, the passion, interest and tradition surrounding baseball in New York is unmatched."
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Sammy before 1998 had this line, .251/.300/.480 with bad defensive mistakes (Manny-esque?) and the truth is we don't really know when Gary started using drugs. It already looks like he lied in his deposition.Comment
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Except that Sammy had speed and a good arm and he was nowhere near as bad as Manny. Also the line you gave was dragged way down by his first four years when he sucked. From 1993-97 Sammy was a fine player.Originally posted by UbiquitousStrikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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Exactly, we don't know. He could have started in 1990 or 2004, who knows?Originally posted by UbiquitousStrikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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