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  • #46
    1984 doesn't have enough for a complete roster yet.

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    • #47
      Okay from 1993 to 1997 Sammy had this line: .268/.321/.511. His OBP and batting average were both below league average. What he did do was hit home runs above league average and a lot of that has to do with Wrigley field. 61% of his homers were hit at home.
      With 3 years especially lopsided, 1993, 1996, and 1997.

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      • #48
        AS for his defense he had a good arm (every so often he would uncork one, or pass up the cutoff man for a no chance shot at home thus allowing the other runners to move up) but it was not a precise arm nor did he have good instincts on hit balls. He never really could choose the proper path towards intercepting a ball. Nor did he ever really know when was the right time to dive for a ball and when it wasn't. There were times when he would dive for a ball in front of him just to see it bounce a foot in front of his glove and then right over him to the wall for a double or triple.

        Sammy did improve as he got older, perhaps by bulking up he lost a step or didn't wish to get hurt so he played a little deeper and stopped trying to dive for everything.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Ubiquitous
          Okay from 1993 to 1997 Sammy had this line: .268/.321/.511. His OBP and batting average were both below league average. What he did do was hit home runs above league average and a lot of that has to do with Wrigley field. 61% of his homers were hit at home.
          With 3 years especially lopsided, 1993, 1996, and 1997.
          Man, you're a party pooper, Ubiq!
          Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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          • #50
            To further the Sammy talk. A lot of people look at the numbers and think that Sammy started using steroids in the offseason before 1998. Now then it really could have been much earlier then that. Sammy Sosa in terms of power suddenly found his stroke in 1993. Last year Larry Himes (sp?) was on WSCR talking to one of the sports guys and he was talking about how when he traded for Sammy to the Cubs he was shocked to see how much bigger he had gotten since he saw him as a White Sox player. He asked Sammy straight out if was using anything to get bigger, Sammy claimed he was not, Larry never brought it up again. But right there is some evidence that Sammy as early as 1992 or 1993 was changing greatly physically to those closest to him in the game. 1998 could simply be when Sammy finally harnessed the phyical gifts and learned enough to play instead of simply relying on raw skill.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules
              Man, you're a party pooper, Ubiq!

              Its my nature, I'm a Cubs fan. I remember before 1998 man we suck our best players are Sammy Sosa and Mark Grace with no hope coming out of the minors and an ownership not willing to get the premier talent. Then Sammy turns into Slammin Sammy.

              Houston had Bagwell and Biggio, the Cards had McGwire and a ton of young talent percolating, and even Pittsburghs future looked bright with Jason Kendall manning the plate and a ton of young promising talent.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules
                Bring it on! The 1968 team may have up to eight HoFers.
                I suppose but after Mussina the pitching ain't great.
                1903 has nine HOFers.
                Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Ubiquitous
                  The twenty best hitters are:
                  Code:
                  First	nameLast
                  Andruw	Jones
                  Carlos	Beltran
                  Eric	Chavez
                  Rafael	Furcal
                  Juan	Pierre
                  Brad	Wilkerson
                  Alex	Gonzalez
                  Jay	Gibbons
                  Jack	Wilson
                  Eric	Hinske
                  Brian	Roberts
                  Travis	Hafner
                  D'Anglo Jimenez
                  Aaron	Rowand
                  Lyle	Overbay
                  Orlando	Hudson
                  Craig	Monroe
                  Brandon	Inge
                  Mark	Ellis
                  Ty	Wigginton
                  Roy Halladay, Kerry Wood, Mark Mulder, Roy Oswalt
                  Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                  Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by RuthMayBond
                    I suppose but after Mussina the pitching ain't great.
                    1903 has nine HOFers.
                    Yes, but you weren't born in 1903! You can't claim a team if you weren't born in that year.
                    Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules
                      Yes, but you weren't born in 1903! You can't claim a team if you weren't born in that year.
                      Then how about Burgess?
                      Mythical SF Chronicle scouting report: "That Jeff runs like a deer. Unfortunately, he also hits AND throws like one." I am Venus DeMilo - NO ARM! I can play like a big leaguer, I can field like Luzinski, run like Lombardi. The secret to managing is keeping the ones who hate you away from the undecided ones. I am a triumph of quantity over quality. I'm almost useful, every village needs an idiot.
                      Good traders: MadHatter(2), BoofBonser26, StormSurge

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Sultan_1895-1948
                        Could someone do a 1977 team for me? I have no idea how you're finding that info.
                        Baseball-Reference.com

                        On the Standings Page for each year you have lists of people who were born that year, died that year, played their 1st game that year, and played their last game that year.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules
                          Here you go, 2006 top high school seniors.

                          http://www.baseballamerica.com/today...ecsptop20.html
                          Thanks, HWR.

                          It's a bit creepy to be working on my senior year and have a guy a year older than me being called the ace of an MLB staff (Felix Hernandez.)
                          CLEVELAND INDIANS Central Division Champions

                          1920 1948 1954 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2001 2007

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                          • #58
                            I'd say Lasting Milledge so far is the best player born in 1985, Felix Hernandez being the best player born in 1986, and Justin Upton the best player born in 1987.

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                            • #59
                              Prince Fielder has probably taken the lead for 1984.

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                              • #60
                                Here's my 1983 team...

                                I'm not listing by position; just making a lineup.

                                1 Jose Reyes
                                2 Hanley Ramirez
                                3 Joe Mauer
                                4 Miguel Cabrera
                                5 Ryan Braun
                                6 Nick Markakis
                                7 Russell Martin
                                8 Casey Kotchman
                                9 Stephen Drew

                                SP Cole Hamels
                                SP Justin Verlander
                                SP Fausto Carmona
                                SP Francisco Liriano

                                Closer: Huston Street
                                My top 10 players:

                                1. Babe Ruth
                                2. Barry Bonds
                                3. Ty Cobb
                                4. Ted Williams
                                5. Willie Mays
                                6. Alex Rodriguez
                                7. Hank Aaron
                                8. Honus Wagner
                                9. Lou Gehrig
                                10. Mickey Mantle

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