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    So far this season, Frank Thomas has created 100% of the A's runs, and is on pace for 162 homers. If he can keep that up, how would this season affect his legacy?
    "Simply put, the passion, interest and tradition surrounding baseball in New York is unmatched."

    Sean McAdam, ESPN.com

  • #2
    Originally posted by ElHalo
    So far this season, Frank Thomas has created 100% of the A's runs, and is on pace for 162 homers. If he can keep that up, how would this season affect his legacy?
    OBJECTION !!

    "sustained"

    no further comment.

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    • #3
      more impressive is pujols on pase for 324.
      how does that rate in comparison?

      however it does, simply divide by 2, and that is how the big hurt rates.
      "you don't have to burn books to destroy a culture. just get people to stop reading them." -ray bradbury

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      • #4
        a-rod is on pace to break Hack Wilson's RBI record

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        • #5
          Well I think we'd have to make some kind of adjustment on account of Thomas being a DH.

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          • #6
            The Tigers are on pace for 486 HR's for the season!
            Buck O'Neil: The Monarch of Baseball

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ElHalo
              So far this season, Frank Thomas has created 100% of the A's runs, and is on pace for 162 homers. If he can keep that up, how would this season affect his legacy?
              How does the sanity of your statement affect your legacy?
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              • #8
                It'll probably place him right up there behind Ryan Langerhans

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by blackout805
                  a-rod is on pace to break Hack Wilson's RBI record
                  Brad Halsey is on pace to break Joe McGinnity's record.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dgarza
                    Brad Halsey is on pace to break Joe McGinnity's record.
                    I'm pretty good on stats, but what is the record McGinnity holds again?
                    Johnson and now Goligoski gone.
                    I hope that's all.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Chisox
                      I'm pretty good on stats, but what is the record McGinnity holds again?
                      The only one that springs to mind is the post 1900 National League record for complete games, with 48.
                      "Simply put, the passion, interest and tradition surrounding baseball in New York is unmatched."

                      Sean McAdam, ESPN.com

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                      • #12
                        "McGinnity, who had teamed with Christy Mathewson since 1902 to form the unsurpassed one-two punch on John McGraw's New York Giants, slowed down a bit in 1907 when he failed to win 20 games for the first time in the majors, going 18-18. In 1908 he pitched a mere 186 innings and won only 11 games, prompting McGraw to decide he was washed up. McGraw released him before the 1909 season, whereupon McGinnity bought a partial interest in the Newark team of the International League, launching the second amazing phase of his unique career.

                        McGraw may have thought there was nothing useful left in McGinnity's arm, but the "Iron Man" proved otherwise. In 1909-10, he won 59 games for Newark, topping 400 innings pitched in both seasons. He moved to Tacoma in 1913, pitching 436 innings and winning 22 games. He won 20 or more games six times in the minors between 1909-16, and in 1917, pitching for Butte in the Northwestern League, he once again pitched and won both games of a doubleheader, defeating Vancouver 3-1 and 6-2. He was 45 years old at the time.

                        Wherever he went in the minors, McGinnity owned a piece of the team and did the managing, so he was able to pitch whenever he felt the urge. He felt the urge often. After sitting out the seasons of 1919-21, he came back again to run the Dubuque team in the Mississippi Valley League, where he pitched 206 innings in 1923 at age 51. When he finally called it a career after six wins for Dubuque in 1925, he had totaled 235 wins in the minors in addition to his 246 in the majors

                        In the strike-shortened seasons of 1994-95, Greg Maddux had the two most dominating years of his career. If you combine his statistics for those two seasons, here's what you get: 53 games started, 412 innings pitched, 297 hits allowed, a 35-8 record, and an ERA of 1.60. Joe McGinnity matched those numbers in one season, 1904: 51 games (44 starts), 408 innings pitched, 307 hits allowed, a 35-8 record, and an ERA of 1.61."

                        From: http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/li.../gs_051101.htm

                        I find it curious how NgLers are always ranked so high, yet McGinnity gets no love what-so-ever. His career was amazing.
                        Last edited by Sultan_1895-1948; 04-04-2006, 09:04 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chisox
                          I'm pretty good on stats, but what is the record McGinnity holds again?
                          He bruised a lot of batters in 1900. Halsey's on pace to hit 50-60 guys.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by dgarza
                            He bruised a lot of batters in 1900. Halsey's on pace to hit 50-60 guys.
                            Gotcha. OK.
                            Johnson and now Goligoski gone.
                            I hope that's all.

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