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    • For sure the history of the Yanks would be very different.
      No way would they keep him on the mound.
      Notice the number 714 on the telegram.
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      • Wow, amazing! But, wouldn't that have been Comiskey Park. I see Comiskey's name on there so I thought it was White Sox. I wonde4r if he would stay a pitcher in Chicago.
        If Baseball Integrated Early - baseball integrated from the beginning - and "Brotherhood and baseball," the U.S. history companion, at http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/Baseballifsandmore - IBIE updated for 2011.

        "Full House Chronology" at yahoo group fullhousefreaks & fullhouse4life with help of many fans, thanks for the input

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        • Originally posted by DTF955 View Post
          Wow, amazing! But, wouldn't that have been Comiskey Park. I see Comiskey's name on there so I thought it was White Sox. I wonde4r if he would stay a pitcher in Chicago.
          I must have been sleeping, I know the Chisox home park.
          Thank you for waking me up, I will change my text.

          I can't imagine any team Babe went to leaving him on the mound.
          That bat has to be in the line up every day.
          Even as a pitcher his hitting power was evident, the potential could be seen.
          Last edited by SHOELESSJOE3; 04-17-2017, 06:12 AM.

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          • Crunching some numbers I came up with the following. From 1920 thru 1932 Ruth (at his peak of performance as a full time player) hit 603 home runs or 46.38 per season. That's a home run for ever 10.6 at bats. His slugging average over the same period was .724. He came close to averaging 50 home runs per season over a thirteen year period. And he did average over 50 home runs per year from 1926 thru 1931. Stunning stuff.
            Last edited by Badge714; 04-22-2017, 04:25 PM.
            ". . . the Ruth, the whole Ruth and nothing but the Ruth . . ."

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            • I heard today on NPR that today was the anniversary of Ruth's first professional game, Baltimore vs Buffalo. Haven't had time to verify it.

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              • Originally posted by BigRon View Post
                I heard today on NPR that today was the anniversary of Ruth's first professional game, Baltimore vs Buffalo. Haven't had time to verify it.
                This confirms it. Smelser: "The Orioles opened at home against Buffalo on April 21 (see attached schedule) and shut out the visiting Bisons. Babe Ruth started the second game [April 22]." Ruth pitched and won 6-0. The Buffalo Courier said "Ruth was unbeatable, he allowed only six hits and pitched better ball with men on base." He also got his first professional regular season hits with two singles in four plate appearances.

                Ruth's first inning as reported by Ernest J. Lanigan:

                "Vaughan was thrown out by Ball. McCarthy [the Joe McCarthy] walked and took second on a wild pitch; Murray flied to Cree; Ruth and Gleichman got mixed up on Hoover's pop fly, the ball dropping safely for a hit and McCarthy taking third; Houser stole second; Jackson was hit by a pitched ball, filling the bases; Roach was thrown out by Ball. No runs, one hit, no errors."

                Smelser: "That's about as much trouble as a pitcher can get into without letting the enemy score." Ruth had moxie.
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                ". . . the Ruth, the whole Ruth and nothing but the Ruth . . ."

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                • The Bam's lost home runs and a prediction, 60 in 1921. Ended up with 59 in 1921, one lost homer at the Polo Grounds.
                  The two he lost in 1930 would have given him his 5th season with 50 or more.
                  The one he lost in 1930 against Grove would have given him 10 career off of Grove, the most career homers Grove gave up.
                  The article notes bleachers in right at Shibe Park in 1930. I believe in error, there was no bleacher section in right field in 1930.
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                  • One more lost in1934.
                    Also Shibe RF in 1930 and the speaker supports on the wall.
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                    • Wasn't "The Babe Comes Home" in 1927?
                      And he wore an LA Angels uni, isn't that right?

                      ..I remember seeing a thread on the movie, anyone know where it is?

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                      • Im having a discussion about Shoeless Joe Jackson on a FB baseball page. Someone claimed that Babe Ruth once said that Joe Jackson was the best player he ever saw. Did Ruth realky say that?
                        Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                        • What I have heard over the years, some say Babe said in his words, that he copied Jackson's style because he was the greatest hitter, greatest natural hitter.
                          He's the guy that made me a hitter.

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                          • Originally posted by SHOELESSJOE3 View Post
                            What I have heard over the years, some say Babe said in his words, that he copied Jackson's style because he was the greatest hitter, greatest natural hitter.
                            He's the guy that made me a hitter.
                            I've read that, too, but after reading Creamer's book I thought the idea of the Babe copying Jackson was bogus. The Babe was signed by the Baltimore Orioles in 1914 right after he graduated from reform school. He wasn't with the Orioles very long then he was traded to the Red Sox later in 1914. In all this when and where did the Babe see Joe Jackson play? I doubt the Babe ever saw Joe Jackson play until the Babe was already in the majors.
                            Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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                            • The Bam, with the Braves 1935. Still going for downtown. bam 1.JPG

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                              • Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post

                                I've read that, too, but after reading Creamer's book I thought the idea of the Babe copying Jackson was bogus. The Babe was signed by the Baltimore Orioles in 1914 right after he graduated from reform school. He wasn't with the Orioles very long then he was traded to the Red Sox later in 1914. In all this when and where did the Babe see Joe Jackson play? I doubt the Babe ever saw Joe Jackson play until the Babe was already in the majors.
                                I hear ya, I've always doubted the story.
                                It did appear as a Babe quote, but who can say if it was true. Long ago but I think I saw it in Baseball Almanac.

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