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"No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”
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If any moderator is so inclined it would be cool to have these last few exchanges moved to the Burgess thread on Honus Wagner. Here is a link to it:
https://www.baseball-fever.com/forum...-wagner-thread"No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”
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Originally posted by bluesky5 View PostIf any moderator is so inclined it would be cool to have these last few exchanges moved to the Burgess thread on Honus Wagner. Here is a link to it:
https://www.baseball-fever.com/forum...-wagner-thread
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Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
Mays’s base running numbers that are coming out show him to be basically the best ever for players with data. Speaking of Pie Traynor earlier- he shows as one of the best base runners ever not just of his time but all-time. Only thing Mays doesn’t have going for him is that he couldn’t play infield let alone SS like Wagner. Imagine if Mays had the defensive acumen of Wagner or even Robin Yount in that he played SS well. I wonder why Mays never saw infield time like Aaron did? Doby and Irivin were famously a double play duo before integration too.
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Originally posted by Nimrod View Post
Ha Ha-we did get away from the subject of this thread,the Bambino,but even so we still can`t get this thread anywhere near as many pages as Steve Garvey`s Thread!Speaking of base running,someone said that '' a gimpy",37 year old Ruth went from first to third on singles to LEFT field twice in the 1932 World Series!The success rate is only supposed to be 10%.Rigg Stephenson was known to have a weak arm,but still!
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Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
Mays’s base running numbers that are coming out show him to be basically the best ever for players with data. Speaking of Pie Traynor earlier- he shows as one of the best base runners ever not just of his time but all-time. Only thing Mays doesn’t have going for him is that he couldn’t play infield let alone SS like Wagner. Imagine if Mays had the defensive acumen of Wagner or even Robin Yount in that he played SS well. I wonder why Mays never saw infield time like Aaron did? Doby and Irivin were famously a double play duo before integration too.
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Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 02-14-2022, 08:42 PM.Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis
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You know I actually once knew that and you reminded me. I know Mantle played some SS. I think he might have been one when he started in the minors? I’m pretty certain that’s how I found out.
This is the Babe Ruth thread!! Take it to the Mays thread. As a Giants fan it is your duty."No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”
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Back to Babe!!!!
Babe Ruth played in an exhibition game at Oriole Park in Baltimore on Nov. 10, 1918. In the 4th inning with Babe on 3d
the runner on first was caught stealing 2d Ruth running toward home on the play; In sliding to evade the throw Ruth wrenched
his knee and limped the rest of the game. The injury was not thought serious
at the time but plagued Babe his entire career. In 1944 Babe was finding the pain in the knee more than he liked
and had it operated on, The surgeon removing a large piece of cartilage.
1920 article.
Ruth.jpg Babe.jpgLast edited by elmer; 02-15-2022, 05:12 AM.
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Babe taking the rap for workers not showing up for work. Easy choice, Babe Ruth Menace NY Tribune complete.jpg go to work or see Babe Ruth in your town.
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Like it was once said,"Babe Ruth he does everything wrong off the field and everything right on the field". I have considered games won, Babe on a great Bosox team and Walter a bad team. Give Walter a good team and he would be way ahead of Babe in games won. But looking at the other stats being second to Walter was some feat. Both leagues in those seasons only one NL pitcher ahead of Babe, Grover Cleveland Alexander.
Babe was not Walter Johnson but for a young pitcher in the game, he had 3 very good years. Tied with Ron Guidry for most shutouts by a left hander in modern times in the AL, 9 in 1916..
Babe pitching 1915-16-7..jpg Best defensive pitchers AL 1915-16-17.jpgLast edited by SHOELESSJOE3; 03-23-2022, 04:27 AM.
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David Wells Babe tatoo.....edited.jpg We see Babe's numbers so many times , I thought nice to see some Babe tidbits. I'm sure Dave and Babe would have some fun time on the town.
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When Walter was asked who hit the longest home runs, not a direct answer. ''Babe Ruth's home runs get smaller quicker.''
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I couldn't find the best thread to have this conversation but I thought any Babe Ruth thread might be a good start:
Even ignoring PEDs, today's players are much larger and stronger on-average than players 50, 75, 100 years ago. In my time powerlifting I know how strong one can get through proper training and nutrition without PEDs. It's baseball adjacent but I hit softballs a lot harder/further as a grown-a$? man in my 30's with more muscle than I did as a 18-22 year old.
SO, now that we have HR Tracker or whatever the official measurement device and site is, and we have just a few legit 500+ foot home runs from these modern monsters, how in the world did those whiskey-swilling old-timers hit them 500+ so often? I guess I'm pretty sure the Babe and the Mick did, and Kingman's Waveland Ave. is very verifiable, but how many 500+ homers were there really?
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Originally posted by scottmitchell74 View PostI couldn't find the best thread to have this conversation but I thought any Babe Ruth thread might be a good start:
Even ignoring PEDs, today's players are much larger and stronger on-average than players 50, 75, 100 years ago. In my time powerlifting I know how strong one can get through proper training and nutrition without PEDs. It's baseball adjacent but I hit softballs a lot harder/further as a grown-a$? man in my 30's with more muscle than I did as a 18-22 year old.
SO, now that we have HR Tracker or whatever the official measurement device and site is, and we have just a few legit 500+ foot home runs from these modern monsters, how in the world did those whiskey-swilling old-timers hit them 500+ so often? I guess I'm pretty sure the Babe and the Mick did, and Kingman's Waveland Ave. is very verifiable, but how many 500+ homers were there really?
Looks like when you get to balls hit 470-480 that last 20 or 30 feet gets tough to get to 500.
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