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carsdaddy said about Ruth being the first to use his whole body in his swing. Since you can’t swing without arms I assumed he meant before Ruth guys weren’t using their lower body. That wasn’t what he meant. I thought Joe still thought that was what he meant. So that’s why I said that."No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.” -
If any moderator is so inclined it would be cool to have these last few exchanges moved to the Burgess thread on Honus Wagner. Here is a link to it:
https://www.baseball-fever.com/forum...-wagner-thread"No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”Comment
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Ha Ha-we did get away from the subject of this thread,the Bambino,but even so we still can`t get this thread anywhere near as many pages as Steve Garvey`s Thread!Speaking of base running,someone said that '' a gimpy",37 year old Ruth went from first to third on singles to LEFT field twice in the 1932 World Series!The success rate is only supposed to be 10%.Rigg Stephenson was known to have a weak arm,but still!Originally posted by bluesky5 View PostComment
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Completely different skill set obviously and even up to high school it is common for the best athletes to play center, SS or even both but the unique skills required for center imo are harder to come by so that's probably why he stayed there.Originally posted by bluesky5 View PostComment
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Base hit to the left of the left fielder in a park that isn't Fenway I could see that happening. Especially given the game situation perhaps the fielder threw to second to keep a double play in order.Originally posted by Nimrod View PostComment
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Last edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 02-14-2022, 08:42 PM.Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash DavisComment
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You know I actually once knew that and you reminded me. I know Mantle played some SS. I think he might have been one when he started in the minors? I’m pretty certain that’s how I found out.
This is the Babe Ruth thread!! Take it to the Mays thread. As a Giants fan it is your duty."No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”Comment
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Back to Babe!!!!
Babe Ruth played in an exhibition game at Oriole Park in Baltimore on Nov. 10, 1918. In the 4th inning with Babe on 3d
the runner on first was caught stealing 2d Ruth running toward home on the play; In sliding to evade the throw Ruth wrenched
his knee and limped the rest of the game. The injury was not thought serious
at the time but plagued Babe his entire career. In 1944 Babe was finding the pain in the knee more than he liked
and had it operated on, The surgeon removing a large piece of cartilage.
1920 article.
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Babe taking the rap for workers not showing up for work. Easy choice, Babe Ruth Menace NY Tribune complete.jpg go to work or see Babe Ruth in your town.Comment
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Like it was once said,"Babe Ruth he does everything wrong off the field and everything right on the field". I have considered games won, Babe on a great Bosox team and Walter a bad team. Give Walter a good team and he would be way ahead of Babe in games won. But looking at the other stats being second to Walter was some feat. Both leagues in those seasons only one NL pitcher ahead of Babe, Grover Cleveland Alexander.
Babe was not Walter Johnson but for a young pitcher in the game, he had 3 very good years. Tied with Ron Guidry for most shutouts by a left hander in modern times in the AL, 9 in 1916..
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David Wells Babe tatoo.....edited.jpg We see Babe's numbers so many times , I thought nice to see some Babe tidbits. I'm sure Dave and Babe would have some fun time on the town.
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When Walter was asked who hit the longest home runs, not a direct answer. ''Babe Ruth's home runs get smaller quicker.''
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I couldn't find the best thread to have this conversation but I thought any Babe Ruth thread might be a good start:
Even ignoring PEDs, today's players are much larger and stronger on-average than players 50, 75, 100 years ago. In my time powerlifting I know how strong one can get through proper training and nutrition without PEDs. It's baseball adjacent but I hit softballs a lot harder/further as a grown-a$? man in my 30's with more muscle than I did as a 18-22 year old.
SO, now that we have HR Tracker or whatever the official measurement device and site is, and we have just a few legit 500+ foot home runs from these modern monsters, how in the world did those whiskey-swilling old-timers hit them 500+ so often? I guess I'm pretty sure the Babe and the Mick did, and Kingman's Waveland Ave. is very verifiable, but how many 500+ homers were there really?Comment
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Probably not that many ever went 500 feet. Watching games today seem to be a fair number of 470-480 foot homers.Originally posted by scottmitchell74 View Post
Looks like when you get to balls hit 470-480 that last 20 or 30 feet gets tough to get to 500.Comment
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