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  • This started around 2001. In Gotham Magazine Spike Lee asked the question, was Babe Ruth black. The magazine gets silly saying, you can't prove he was not black
    You may not recall, this was discussed on this board in 2008. The thread stated on1-9-2008 by member Wdl. In fact you posted a reply to that on 1-9-2008.

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    • The first "Unofficial" home run at Yankee Stadium, Feb.19,1923. Babe first homer pic.jpg

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      • Anyone have thoughts on Babe's (most up do date) base running and fielding metrics? Retrosheet is mostly complete back through 1918, now.

        How do his skills pan out?

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        • Thress has him as a slight negative on the bases, but retrosheet only has complete play by play based data back to 1932.
          http://baseball.tomthress.com/StatTa...0.333333333333

          It's plausible he could be a plus on the bases when all the data comes in.


          Ruth's fielding record:
          http://baseball.tomthress.com/StatTa...0.333333333333

          He looks like a net neutral now, but that could change. Of the others, TZ loves his fielding but DRA only likes it.

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          • Seasons with .350 BA, .475 OBP, .700 SLG, 40 HR, 130 Runs:

            Babe Ruth - 8
            All other players combined - 0
            My top 10 players:

            1. Babe Ruth
            2. Barry Bonds
            3. Ty Cobb
            4. Ted Williams
            5. Willie Mays
            6. Alex Rodriguez
            7. Hank Aaron
            8. Honus Wagner
            9. Lou Gehrig
            10. Mickey Mantle

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            • It appears that George Ruth really knew the game. Later it was found the 1930 NL ball was made livelier.
              Babe and the ball 2.JPG
              Attached Files

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              • Wish I could see that pic of the Babe with holding black orphan.

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                • I have seen that one and one other pic, Babe standing with a white and black youngster.. At this time looking for a flash drive full of Babe newspaper articles and also hundreds of photos of old parks. It has to be here, where I don't know. Will post that pic if I find that drive.

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                  • A part of Babe's Bosox contract, seasons 1916-17.
                    Babe Ruth contract 2222.JPG

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                    • Originally posted by oddsox1919 View Post
                      Wish I could see that pic of the Babe with holding black orphan.
                      No luck finding that one in my saved folders. Still searching for my missing flash drive loaded with Babe photos. You may have seen this one taken at an orphanage with children and one at an exhibition game. Blacks who played against Babe in exhibition games had praise for him. Appears they viewed him as seeing them with no prejudice, they got along fine.

                      Babe Ruth black boy.jpg Babe Ruth black fans.jpg

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                      • This article was not picked up by any of the white big newspapers. Ruth saw no class distinction or color. If you were the president or a doorman, you were in the same class. Same with skin color. Here he praises the black players and their ability to play the game.

                        babe in praise of black players.jpg

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                        • One story from Joe Dugan told about an event that took place in Saint Louis. Babe and him driving in the black section saw a group of black kids sitting on some tenement steps. They recognized him called out his name. He parked, spent some time talking to the kids. When he left, he opened his trunk and left them with a number of bats, mitts and baseballs. So sad that some of the great black players were not in the game in that time period. The early history of the game would have been so enhanced if they were in the game in that time.

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                          • Ruth visits another young boy at home, unlike Johnny Sylvester, this was a sad ending, Chicago 1932. The boy was injured and blinded in an explosion, Ruth gave him a baseball. Ruth's teammate who was with him said Ruth left in tears. He knew what the boy had not been told yet, he would never regain his sight. Z Babe visits blind boy..jpg

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