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  • #16
    1. Jeff Bagwell
    2. Duke Snider
    3. Wade Boggs
    4. Paul Waner
    5. Sam Crawford

    6. Ed Delahantty
    7. Manny Ramirez
    8. Roy Campanella
    9. Robin Yount
    10. Joe Jackson

    Lots of terrific players in the hunt, but I believe that Bagwell and Snider are the best of the bunch. Bagwell was an unrelentingly outstanding batter his entire career, plus he ran very well for a first baseman. Snider was a true 5 tool star, with great peak seasons. His big bat in centerfield gave the Dodgers a terrific offensive advantage. The great offensive CFers all bring their teams a substantial advantage that many fans don't appreciate.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BigRon View Post
      1. Jeff Bagwell
      2. Duke Snider
      3. Wade Boggs
      4. Paul Waner
      5. Sam Crawford

      6. Ed Delahantty
      7. Manny Ramirez
      8. Roy Campanella
      9. Robin Yount
      10. Joe Jackson

      Lots of terrific players in the hunt, but I believe that Bagwell and Snider are the best of the bunch. Bagwell was an unrelentingly outstanding batter his entire career, plus he ran very well for a first baseman. Snider was a true 5 tool star, with great peak seasons. His big bat in centerfield gave the Dodgers a terrific offensive advantage. The great offensive CFers all bring their teams a substantial advantage that many fans don't appreciate.
      Ed Delahanty has already been selected #44 Ron

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      • #18
        Decided to post anyway just in case:

        1) Yount
        2) G. Davis
        3) P. Waner
        4) Boggs
        5) Alomar

        6) Cochrane
        7) McCovey
        8) Frank Thomas
        9) Appling
        10) Bagwell

        11) Fisk
        12) Gwynn
        13) Carew
        14) Crawford
        15) Snider

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        • #19
          Thought I'd go through and pick out the top players in WAR remaining. I don't sue the WAR value itself in my ranking, but like to look at the baserunning and positional and defensive components especially. To avoid confusion, I won't number them. Also still think Catchers need some extra longevity boost tacked on to their WAR-maybe 10%, and that league quality is not dealt with for the most part.

          George Davis: 90.8
          Wage Boggs: 89.0
          Roger Connor 87.1
          Dan Brouthers: 83.7
          Jeff Bagwell: 79.9
          Rod Carew: 79.3
          Robin Yount: 76.8
          Chipper Jones: 76.7
          Sam Crawford: 76.3
          Bill Dahlen: 75.9
          Frank Thomas: 75.9
          Paul Molitor: 74.9
          Frankie Frisch: 74.7
          Paul Waner: 73.8
          Fred Clarke: 73.4

          The next catchers are:

          Fisk: 67.5
          I-Rod: 66.6 (through last year)
          Gary CarterL 66.2

          Who would all be above 70 with a 10% longevity bonus. I think catchers deserve something because they probably work harder on their "off" days than other players.

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          • #20
            It'll be two weeks tomorrow, so I'll post the results then. I am working with more than what has actually been posted. Go ahead and get your votes in if you haven't already.
            "Any pitcher who throws at a batter and deliberately tries to hit him is a communist."

            - Alvin Dark

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            • #21
              We're stalled at 11 votes.

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              • #22
                With the help of past votes plus those posted here, I am posting a chart based on 22 contributions.

                Code:
                Fname		Lname		First	Second	Third	Fourth	Fifth	Total
                Robin		Yount		3	2	4	1	1	38
                Sam		Crawford	4	1	1	3	2	35
                Frank		Thomas		3	3	2	1	0	35
                Wade		Boggs		1	3	4	1	3	34
                Mickey		Cochrane	2	2	2	0	2	26
                Shoeless Joe	Jackson		2	2	0	3	0	24
                Jeff		Bagwell		1	0	2	2	2	17
                George		Sisler		2	1	1	0	0	17
                George		Davis		0	3	0	1	0	14
                Duke		Snider		0	1	1	1	0	9
                Roger		Connor		1	0	0	0	2	7
                Paul		Waner		0	0	1	2	0	7
                Derek		Jeter		1	0	0	0	1	6
                Willie		McCovey		0	0	1	0	3	6
                Manny		Ramirez		1	0	0	0	1	6
                Roy		Campanella	0	1	0	0	1	5
                Bill		Dickey		0	0	1	1	0	5
                Sammy		Sosa		1	0	0	0	0	5
                Billy		Hamilton	0	1	0	0	0	4
                Tim		Raines		0	1	0	0	0	4
                Roberto		Alomar		0	0	0	1	1	3
                Goose		Goslin		0	0	1	0	0	3
                Chino		Smith		0	0	1	0	0	3
                Vladimir	Guerrero	0	0	0	1	0	2
                Chipper		Jones		0	0	0	1	0	2
                King		Kelly		0	0	0	1	0	2
                Ryne		Sandberg	0	0	0	1	0	2
                Sam		Thompson	0	0	0	1	0	2
                Carlton		Fisk		0	0	0	0	1	1
                Hughie		Jennings	0	0	0	0	1	1
                Ron		Santo		0	0	0	0	1	1
                "Any pitcher who throws at a batter and deliberately tries to hit him is a communist."

                - Alvin Dark

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