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  • Greatest Player by Position: Round 7

    Greetings members of the Fever. Every year, I conduct an unofficial survey on who we believe to be the top ten at each position. It's going on its fifth-year anniversary, so I hope to continue it with much support.

    All you have to do is post your ballot of the top ten players at the designated position. The system is the familiar point assignments: 10 points for first place, 9 for second, etc. When I close the voting, I tally up everyone's ballot and release the year's unofficial top ten.

    We start with catchers for round one. Post your top ten catchers according to any criteria you seem fit. All I ask is that after each place, you assign points for the slot (10 for your all-time best, 9 for second, etc.) Though the rankings are on you, please consider a player's career across all positions.

    The only rule: players must have played American MLB baseball. This is the first year I've decided to exclude Negro Leaguers. Also, if there are any discrepancies in the ballots, I reserve the right to withhold your ballot until the issue is cleared up (I will send you a private message).

    For future reference, the following players have been considered eligible these positions since we only vote for them once (i.e. Ernie Banks is only in the shortstop round and not considered in the first basemen round):
    Ernie Banks- shortstop
    Pete Rose- Left field
    Stan Musial- Left field
    Alex Rodriguez- shortstop
    Dick Allen- first base
    Paul Molitor- third base
    Willie Stargell- left field
    Harmon Killebrew- first base
    Rod Carew- second base
    Darrell Evans- third base

    Also note that there is no DH round, so consider players like Edgar Martinez and Frank Thomas for their main fielding position.
    ----------------------------------
    Round 6 had a lot of votes
    1) Ted Williams- 183 pts
    2) Barry Bonds- 173 pts
    3) Stan Musial- 153 pts
    4) Rickey Henderson- 133 pts
    5) Carl Yastrzemski- 108 pts
    6) Ed Delahanty- 57 pts
    7) Joe Jackson- 54 pts
    8) Al Simmons- 47 pts
    9) Pete Rose- 38 pts
    10) Manny Ramirez- 31 pts

    Code:
    	2008			2009		2010		2011		Average
    1	Cobb (150)	Mays (169)		Mays (161)	Mays (243)	Mays (181)				
    2	Mays (146)	Cobb (166)		Cobb (158)	Cobb (219)	Cobb (172)				
    3	Mantle (126)	Mantle (139)		Mantle (127)	Mantle (189)	Mantle (145)				
    4	Speaker (115)	Speaker (124)		Speaker (124)	Speaker (168)	Speaker (132)				
    5	DiMaggio (92)	O. Char (102)**		DiMaggio (99)	DiMaggio (140)	DiMaggio (107)				
    6	O. Char (73)**	DiMaggio (96)		Griffey (75)	Griffey (119)	Griffey (82)				
    7	Griffey (61)	Griffey (71)		O. Char (56)**	O. Char (85)**	Charleston (79)**			
    8	Snider (37)	Snider (53)		Snider (41)	Snider (81)	Snider (53)				
    9	Hamilton (36)	Hamilton (30)		Hamilton (31)	Hamilton (33)	Hamilton (33)				
    10	Edmonds (13)	Torriente (10)**	Edmonds (14)	Edmonds (23)	Edmonds (13)
    Last edited by Tyrus4189Cobb; 03-01-2012, 06:41 AM.
    "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

  • #2
    I will post last round's results after I clear up something with a voter.
    "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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    • #3
      1. Willie Mays
      2. Ty Cobb
      3. Mickey Mantle
      4. Tris Speaker
      5. Ken Griffey Jr
      6. Joe DiMaggio
      7. Billy Hamilton
      8. Duke Snider
      9. Paul Hines
      10. Kirby Puckett
      HM
      George Gore
      Max Carey
      Larry Doby
      Fred Lynn
      Dale Murphy

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      • #4
        Originally posted by leecemark View Post
        1. Willie Mays
        2. Ty Cobb
        3. Mickey Mantle
        4. Tris Speaker
        5. Ken Griffey Jr
        6. Joe DiMaggio
        7. Billy Hamilton
        8. Duke Snider
        9. Paul Hines
        10. Kirby Puckett
        HM
        George Gore
        Max Carey
        Larry Doby
        Fred Lynn
        Dale Murphy
        Did you overlook Edmonds, or do you feel he's not in the top 15?

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        • #5
          the latter

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          • #6
            The first 8 are easy- it's the bottom 2 that's the problem.

            1. Ty Cobb, by the very narrowest of margins ahead of
            2. Willie Mays- the most complete player I ever saw
            3. Mickey Mantle, by a narrow margin over
            4. Tris Speaker
            5. Joe DiMaggio, with war credit- not far behind Speaker
            6. Ken Griffey Jr.- a ways behind the top 5
            7. Duke Snider- 100% as good as Griffey Jr., but no modern surgical fixes in his day
            8. Billy Hamilton- real old timer, but a great one
            9. Jim Edmonds- similar as a player to Snider, but a bit below him
            10. Kirby Puckett- very narrow margin over

            Larry Doby- if I give Doby a year or 2 credit for segregation, I might have him over Puckett.
            Jimmy Wynn- great talent- a few too many injuries and a little inconsistency hurt him

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            • #7
              1.) Ty Cobb-10
              2.) Willie Mays-9
              3.) Tris Speaker-8
              4.) Mickey Mantle-7
              5.) Joe Dimaggio-6
              6.) Ken Griffey Jr.-5
              7.) Duke Snider-4
              8.) Billy Hamilton-3
              9.) Kirby Puckett-2
              10.) Jim Edmonds-1
              "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

              "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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              • #8
                1- Willie Mays- 10 pts.

                2- Ty Cobb- 9 pts.

                3- Mickey Mantle- 8 pts.

                4- Tris Speaker- 7 pts

                5- Joe DiMaggio- 6 pts

                6- Ken Griffey Jr.- 5 pts.

                7- Duke Snider- 4 pts.

                8- Jim Edmonds-3 pts.

                9- Billy Hamilton- 2 pts.

                10- Kenny Lofton- 1pt

                Honorable mention:

                Carlos Beltran

                Andruw Jones

                Jimmy Wynn

                Richie Ashburn

                Cesar Cedeno

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                • #9
                  Center Fielders:

                  Cobb [10]
                  Mays [9]
                  Speaker [8]
                  J. DiMaggio [7]
                  Mantle [6]
                  Griffey, Jr. [5]
                  Edmonds [4]
                  Ashburn [3]
                  Averill [2]
                  Snider [1]

                  Slot 10 was tough. Close up: Lofton, Sam West, Dom DiMaggio, Max Carey, Gary Maddox, Fred Lynn, Kirby Puckett [not listed in any particular order]

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                  • #10
                    Still awaiting a response from the voter. I hope to have last round's results soon.

                    1. Willie Mays- 10 pts
                    2. Ty Cobb- 9 pts
                    3. Tris Speaker- 8 pts
                    4. Mickey Mantle- 7 pts
                    5. Joe DiMaggio- 6 pts
                    6. Ken Griffey- 5 pts
                    7. Duke Snider- 4 pts
                    8. Billy Hamilton- 3 pts
                    9. Jim Edmonds- 2 pts
                    10. Larry Doby- 1 pt
                    "Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article

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                    • #11
                      1. Willie Mays
                      2. Ty Cobb
                      3. Ken Griffey Jr.
                      4. Mickey Mantle
                      5. Joe DiMaggio
                      6. Tris Speaker
                      7. Duke Snider
                      8. Jim Edmonds
                      9. Rich Ashburn
                      10. Billy Hamilton
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                      HM, No order.
                      Vada Pinson
                      Earle Combs
                      Ceasar Cedeno
                      Larry Doby
                      George Gore
                      Pete Browning
                      Paul Hines
                      Dale Murphy
                      Jim Wynn
                      Andruw Jones
                      Earl Averill
                      Grady Sizemore
                      Pete Reiser
                      Kenny Lofton
                      Marquis Grissom
                      Kirby Puckett
                      Fred Lynn
                      Lenny Dykstra
                      Lip Pike
                      Last edited by bluesky5; 02-29-2012, 03:25 PM.
                      "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                      • #12
                        1-Willie Mays: 10 Points
                        2-Ty Cobb: 9 Points
                        3-Mickey Mantle: 8 Points
                        4-Joe DiMaggio: 7 Points
                        5-Tris Speaker: 6 Points
                        6-Ken Griffey Jr: 5 points
                        7-Duke Snider: 4 Points
                        8-Jim Edmonds: 3 Points
                        9-Andruw Jones: 2 Points
                        10-Richie Ashburn: 1 Points

                        Carlos Beltran just missed.
                        Chop! Chop! Chop!

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                        • #13
                          1) Ty Cobb - 10 pts
                          2) Willie Mays - 9 pts
                          3) Tris Speaker - 8 pts
                          4) Mickey Mantle - 7 pts
                          5) Joe DiMaggio - 6 pts
                          6) Ken Griffey - 5 pts
                          7) Billy Hamilton - 4 pts
                          8) Jim Edmonds - 3 pts
                          9) Duke Snider - 2 pts
                          10) Kenny Lofton - 1 pt
                          *** Submit your personal HOF as your ballot for the Single Ballot BBF Hall of Fame! *** Also: Buck the Fraves!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DJC View Post
                            1) Ty Cobb - 10 pts
                            2) Willie Mays - 9 pts
                            3) Tris Speaker - 8 pts
                            4) Mickey Mantle - 7 pts
                            5) Joe DiMaggio - 6 pts
                            6) Ken Griffey - 5 pts
                            7) Billy Hamilton - 4 pts
                            8) Jim Edmonds - 3 pts
                            9) Duke Snider - 2 pts
                            10) Kenny Lofton - 1 pt
                            Okay, DJC- I've got to ask you straight out- do you rank your players alltime based on their career WAR totals? I've been suspicious for quite a while, but never checked. But, I'm quite familiar with the centerfielders WAR totals, and....

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                            • #15
                              1. Mays
                              2. Cobb
                              3. Speaker
                              4. Mantle
                              5. Dimaggio
                              6. Griffey
                              7. Snider
                              8. Hamilton
                              9. Edmonds
                              10. Ashburn
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