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  • #16
    Originally posted by Gee Walker View Post
    The 1910's saw peak production from Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker, plus the beginning of Oscar Charleston's career. That's three of the top ten of all time. Throw in a second string of Sam Rice, Edd Roush, and Max Carey, and that's an awfully good bunch.
    Sam Rice was a RFer.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post
      Sam Rice was a RFer.
      I am pretty sure many major league caliber corner outfielders can do just fine if they move over to the other side, especially a right fielder going to left.
      "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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      • #18
        Going by win shares in the decade, Here's the first second and third team CFers for each league in each decade.

        1876 - 1879
        First Team -- Second Team -- Third Team
        CF - Paul Hines - Lip Pike - Jack Remsen

        1880 - 1889
        CF - George Gore - Paul Hines - Pete Browning

        1890 - 1899
        CF - Billy Hamilton - George Van Haltren - Mike Griffin

        NATIONAL LEAGUE 1900 - 1909
        CF - Roy Thomas - Ginger Beaumont - Cy Seymour

        AMERICAN LEAGUE 1901 - 1909
        CF - Sam Crawford - Fielder Jones - Chick Stahl

        NATIONAL LEAGUE 1910 - 1919
        CF - Dode Paskert - Max Carey - Benny Kauff

        AMERICAN LEAGUE 1910 - 1919
        CF - Ty Cobb - Tris Speaker - Burt Shotton

        NATIONAL LEAGUE 1920 - 1929
        CF - Ed Roush - Max Carey - Hack Wilson

        AMERICAN LEAGUE 1920 - 1929
        CF - Tris Speaker - Ty Cobb - Al Simmons

        NATIONAL LEAGUE 1930 - 1939
        CF - Wally Berger - Lloyd Waner - Kiki Cuyler

        AMERICAN LEAGUE 1930 - 1939
        CF - Earl Averill - Sammy West - Joe DiMaggio

        NATIONAL LEAGUE 1940 - 1949
        CF - Tommy Holmes - Johnny Hopp - Pete Reiser

        AMERICAN LEAGUE 1940 - 1949
        CF - Joe DiMaggio - Stan Spence - Dom DiMaggio

        NATIONAL LEAGUE 1950 - 1959
        CF - Duke Snider - Richie Ashburn - Willie Mays

        AMERICAN LEAGUE 1950 - 1959
        CF - Mickey Mantle - Larry Doby - Irv Noren

        NATIONAL LEAGUE 1960 - 1969
        CF - Willie Mays - Vada Pinson - Curt Flood

        AMERICAN LEAGUE 1960 - 1969
        CF - Mickey Mantle - Tom Tresh - Jimmie Hall

        NATIONAL LEAGUE 1970 - 1979
        CF - Cesar Cedeno - Al Oliver - Rick Monday

        AMERICAN LEAGUE 1970 - 1979
        CF - Amos Otis - Bobby Murcer - Mickey Rivers

        NATIONAL LEAGUE 1980 - 1989
        CF - Dale Murphy - Andre Dawson - Brett Butler

        AMERICAN LEAGUE 1980 - 1989
        CF - Willie Wilson - Chet Lemon - Lloyd Moseby

        NATIONAL LEAGUE 1990 - 1999
        CF - Ray Lankford - Steve Finley - Marquis Grissom

        AMERICAN LEAGUE 1990 - 1999
        CF - Ken Griffey Jr. - Bernie Williams - Brady Anderson

        NATIONAL LEAGUE 2000 - 2009
        CF - Carlos Beltran - Jim Edmonds - Andruw Jones

        AMERICAN LEAGUE 2000 - 2009
        CF - Johnny Damon - Mike Cameron - Randy Winn

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post
          AMERICAN LEAGUE 2000 - 2009
          CF - Johnny Damon
          Speaking of Damon, the new season of CELEBRITY APPRENTICE debuts tonight and is also on tomorrow, and Johnny Damon is one of the players this year.

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          • #20
            I like the 2010s. Just consider the following:

            Mike Trout
            Andrew McCutchen
            Adam Jones
            Jacoby Ellsbury
            Carlos Gomez

            Plus some wildcards...


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            • #21
              Originally posted by Yankillaz View Post
              I like the 2010s. Just consider the following:

              Mike Trout
              Andrew McCutchen
              Adam Jones
              Jacoby Ellsbury
              Carlos Gomez

              Plus some wildcards...

              Five out of 30 is no big deal.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post
                Five out of 30 is no big deal.
                He forgot the immortal Jon Jay.
                "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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                • #23
                  Quick tangent. How many HOF Cfers do we have per decade. Or caliber of HOFers.

                  The duo of Trout-McCutchen talent wise, and if we take career projections at this very early stage is only overshadowed by those duos 1910s and 1950s. And we haven't dug deeper just yet.

                  Of course that's peak value. I do conced that the 90s was the deepest of all the decades. Just in 1993 there were 28 teams, with CFers:

                  Toronto - Devon White
                  New York - Bernie Williams
                  Baltimore - Brady Anderson
                  Cleveland - Kenny Lofton
                  Boston - Ellis Burks
                  Milwaukee - Darryl Hamilton
                  Detroit - Milt Cuyler
                  Chicago - Lance Johnson
                  Texas - ???
                  Seattle - Ken Griffey Jr.
                  California - Chad Curtis
                  Kansas City - Brian Mcrae
                  Minnesotta - Kirby Puckett
                  Oakland - ???

                  Philadelphia - Lenny Dykstra
                  Montreal - Marquis Grissom
                  St. Louis - Ray Lankford
                  Chicago - ???
                  Pittsburgh - Andy Van Slyke
                  Florida - Chuck Carr
                  New York - Vince Coleman

                  Atlanta - Otis Nixon
                  San Francisco - Darren Lewis
                  Los Angeles - Brett Butler
                  Houston - Steve Finley
                  San Diego - ???
                  Colorado - ???

                  Many of them All Stars at one point of their careers.

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                  • #24
                    Devo was an outstanding center fielder. When he came up with the Angels in the late 1980s, they still had another incredible defensive wizard in center: Gary Pettis. Devo would come in as a defensive replacement late in games for either Brian Downing in LF or the George Hendrick/Ruppert Jones tandem in RF. Pettis and White in the same outfield, wow. That would be something to watch!
                    "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Herr28 View Post
                      Devo was an outstanding center fielder. When he came up with the Angels in the late 1980s, they still had another incredible defensive wizard in center: Gary Pettis. Devo would come in as a defensive replacement late in games for either Brian Downing in LF or the George Hendrick/Ruppert Jones tandem in RF. Pettis and White in the same outfield, wow. That would be something to watch!
                      Word. That's what's so fascinating of the Royals outfield in the postseason. They had three GG caliber outfielders, two CFers to boot at once.
                      "I am not too serious about anything. I believe you have to enjoy yourself to get the most out of your ability."-
                      George Brett

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                      • #26
                        Will go with the fifties.

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                        • #27
                          Nice. I think I bumped this once a while back, but never had my say about the 1980s guys. I should check first. . . Nope. OK, I'll rattle off some names of players from the 1980s that held down CF for a few years at least:

                          Garry Pettis
                          Willie McGee
                          Andy van Slyke
                          Garry Maddox
                          Lloyd Moseby
                          Devon White
                          Kirby Puckett
                          Dale Murphy
                          Chet Lemon
                          Fred Lynn
                          Eric Davis
                          Brett Butler
                          Dwayne Murphy
                          Gorman Thomas
                          Robin Yount
                          Andre Dawson
                          Dave Henderson
                          Tony Armas
                          Ellis Burks

                          Not sure if Lenny Dykstra played a lot CF in the 1980s or not. Also, I don't know about some guys like Kevin McReynolds, Mookie Wilson, Bob Dernier, or Oddibe McDowell. I think they were all center fielders, but I don't remember if they were any good in the field or not. Rickey Henderson played CF too, but again, I can't recall if he was any good there. I always thought Tony Armas belonged in a corner spot, but there was a guy here a year or so ago that challenged my assumption so maybe I should add his name. There, now the Nation can be happy. Oops, forgot his replacement. There. This is just off the top of the head, so please help me flesh out the glorious 1980s.
                          "It ain't braggin' if you can do it." Dizzy Dean

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                          • #28
                            I liked Mike Cameron

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