Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Retrospective Rookie of the Year Award: 1911

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • ian2813
    replied
    Voting is closed! Results to come soon.

    Leave a comment:


  • bluesky5
    replied
    AL
    Shoeless Joe Jackson - Imagine how much better the $100,000 infield teams would have been had they had Jackson in the outfield, batting cleanup.
    Vean Gregg
    Ping Bodie

    NL
    Grover Cleveland Alexander
    Max Carey
    Bob Coulson

    Leave a comment:


  • ian2813
    replied
    Originally posted by SavoyBG View Post
    AL
    Jackson
    Gregg
    Caldwell

    NL
    Were you going to vote for the NL too, Savoy?

    Leave a comment:


  • Tyrus4189Cobb
    replied
    AL
    Joe Jackson
    Vean Gregg
    Ping Bodie

    NL
    Pete Alexander
    George Chalmers
    Claude Hendrix

    Leave a comment:


  • PVNICK
    replied
    AL
    Jackson
    Gregg
    Bodie

    NL
    Alexander
    Chalmers
    Carey

    Leave a comment:


  • SavoyBG
    replied
    AL
    Jackson
    Gregg
    Caldwell

    NL
    Alexander
    Carey
    Chalmers
    Last edited by SavoyBG; 03-19-2012, 08:17 AM.

    Leave a comment:


  • RUKen
    replied
    Gregg
    Jackson
    Bodie

    Alexander
    Chalmers
    Carey

    Leave a comment:


  • Nerdlinger
    replied
    AL
    1) Joe Jackson
    2) Vean Gregg
    3) Ray Caldwell

    NL
    1) Pete Alexander
    2) Max Carey
    3) Jack Ferry

    Leave a comment:


  • ian2813
    started a topic Retrospective Rookie of the Year Award: 1911

    Retrospective Rookie of the Year Award: 1911

    1911 is here! It was a great season, one in which the leagues experimented with a livelier ball. It ended with the Philadelphia A's avenging their loss to the New York Giants in the 1905 World Series.

    In order to cast a ballot, please rank your top three choices in both the American League and the National League. Select only from the lists below, please.

    Voting will close at 6 AM Central Time on Sunday, March 25.

    Discussion Thread

    1911 American League Rookie Position Players
    HTML Code:
    Player             B Ag Lg Tm    G  PA  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS  BB  SO    BA   OBP   SLG   OPS OPS+ TB HP SH DP tWAR bWAR oWAR dWAR pWAR Pos
    Eddie Ainsmith     R 21 AL WSH  61 163 149  12  33  2  3  0  14  5     10     0.221 0.275 0.275 0.550  55  41  1  3    -0.3 -0.3  0.0 -0.3  0.0 2
    John Black         R 21 AL SLB  54 201 186  13  28  4  0  0   7  4     10     0.151 0.202 0.172 0.374   6  32  2  3    -2.2 -2.2 -1.9 -0.3  0.0 3
    Ping Bodie         R 23 AL CHW 145 618 551  75 159 27 13  4  97 14     49     0.289 0.348 0.407 0.754 112 224  1 17     3.0  3.0  2.7  0.3  0.0 *O4
    Hank Butcher       R 24 AL CLE  38 147 133  22  32  7  3  1  11  9     11     0.241 0.303 0.361 0.664  84  48  1  2     0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0 O
    Ray Caldwell*      L 23 AL NYY  59 159 147  14  40  4  1  0  17  5     11     0.272 0.323 0.313 0.636  73  46  0  1     4.9  0.3  0.4 -0.1  0.0 1O
    Roy Corhan         R 23 AL CHW  43 153 131  14  28  6  2  0   8  2     15     0.214 0.304 0.290 0.594  67  38  2  5     0.6  0.6  0.2  0.4  0.0 6
    Bill Cunningham    R 25 AL WSH  94 368 331  34  63 10  5  3  37 10     19     0.190 0.239 0.278 0.517  45  92  2 16    -2.1 -2.1 -1.4 -0.7  0.0 4
    Delos Drake        R 24 AL DET  95 343 315  37  88  9  9  1  36 20     17     0.279 0.324 0.375 0.699  91 118  4  7     0.2  0.2  0.5 -0.3  0.0 O/3
    Gus Fisher         L 25 AL CLE  70 220 203  20  53  6  3  0  12  6      7     0.261 0.302 0.320 0.623  73  65  5  5     0.0  0.0  0.2 -0.2  0.0 2/3
    Del Gainer         R 24 AL DET  70 283 248  32  75 11  4  2  25 10     20     0.302 0.366 0.403 0.770 110 100  5 10     0.8  0.8  1.2 -0.4  0.0 3
    Ed Hallinan        R 22 AL SLB  52 185 169  13  35  3  1  0  14  4     14     0.207 0.268 0.237 0.504  43  40  0  2    -1.2 -1.2 -0.6 -0.6  0.0 64/5
    Willie Hogan       R 26 AL 2TM 130 526 462  54 117 18  8  2  64 18     43     0.253 0.320 0.340 0.659  87 157  2 19     0.7  0.7  0.3  0.4  0.0 *O/3
    Joe Jackson        L 23 AL CLE 147 641 571 126 233 45 19  7  83 41     56     0.408 0.468 0.590 1.058 193 337  8  6     9.0  9.0  8.5  0.5  0.0 *O
    Otis Johnson       S 27 AL NYY  71 262 209  21  49  9  6  3  36 12     39     0.234 0.363 0.378 0.741 102  79  3 11     0.7  0.7  1.0 -0.3  0.0 64/5
    Les Nunamaker      R 22 AL BOS  62 207 183  18  47  4  3  0  19  1     12     0.257 0.303 0.311 0.614  72  57  0 12     0.1  0.1  0.2 -0.1  0.0 2
    Ivy Olson          R 25 AL CLE 140 610 545  89 142 20  8  1  50 20     34     0.261 0.311 0.332 0.643  79 181  6 25     0.4  0.4  1.1 -0.7  0.0 *6/5
    Joe Riggert        R 24 AL BOS  50 168 146  19  31  4  4  2  13  5     12     0.212 0.290 0.336 0.626  75  49  4  6    -0.3 -0.3 -0.2 -0.1  0.0 O
    Burt Shotton       L 26 AL SLB 139 630 572  84 146 11  8  0  36 26     51     0.255 0.317 0.302 0.620  76 173  1  6     0.4  0.4  0.1  0.3  0.0 *O
    Tillie Walker      R 23 AL WSH  95 386 356  44  99  6  4  2  39 12     15     0.278 0.311 0.334 0.645  81 119  2 13    -0.3 -0.3 -0.1 -0.2  0.0 O
    Rip Williams       R 29 AL BOS  95 329 284  36  68  8  5  0  31  9     24     0.239 0.314 0.303 0.617  73  86  7 14    -0.3 -0.3  0.0 -0.3  0.0 32
    Steve Yerkes       R 23 AL BOS 142 591 502  70 140 24  3  1  57 14     52     0.279 0.354 0.345 0.698  96 173  6 31     1.7  1.7  2.2 -0.5  0.0 *645
    1911 American League Rookie Pitchers
    HTML Code:
    Pitcher            T Ag Lg Tm   W  L  W-L%   ERA  G GS GF CG ST SV    IP   H   R  ER HR  BB  SO HP BK WP   BF ERA+ WHIP tWAR bWAR oWAR dWAR pWAR
    Jesse Baker        L 23 AL CHW  2  7 0.222  3.93 22  8  9  3  0  1  94.0 101  52  41  3  30  51  4  0  5  385  83 1.394 -0.2 -0.2 -0.2  0.0  0.0
    Charlie Becker     L 20 AL WSH  3  5 0.375  4.04 11  5  4  5  1  0  71.3  80  44  32  2  23  31  7  0  2  328  82 1.444 -0.2  0.0  0.0  0.0 -0.2
    Joe Benz           R 25 AL CHW  3  2 0.600  2.26 12  6  4  1  0  0  55.7  52  23  14  0  13  28  2  1  1  222 144 1.168  0.5 -0.3 -0.2 -0.1  0.8
    Fred Blanding      R 23 AL CLE  7 11 0.389  3.68 29 16 12 11  0  2 176.0 190  95  72  5  60  80  6  0  5  738  93 1.420  1.1  0.2  0.2  0.0  0.9
    Ray Caldwell*      R 23 AL NYY 14 14 0.500  3.35 41 26 13 19  1  1 255.0 240 115  95  7  79 145 13  1  6 1015 107 1.251  4.9  0.3  0.4 -0.1  4.6
    Carl Cashion       R 20 AL WSH  1  5 0.167  4.16 11  9  2  5  0  0  71.3  67  45  33  4  47  26  7  0  4  358  79 1.598  0.0  0.3  0.3  0.0 -0.3
    Tex Covington      R 24 AL DET  7  1 0.875  4.09 17  6  4  5  0  0  83.7  94  43  38  2  33  29 10  1  2  360  85 1.518  0.8 -0.1 -0.1  0.0  0.9
    Lefty George       L 24 AL SLB  4  9 0.308  4.18 27 13  9  6  1  0 116.3 136  81  54  3  51  23  9  1  0  591  81 1.607 -1.5 -0.3 -0.2 -0.1 -1.2
    Vean Gregg         L 26 AL CLE 23  7 0.767  1.80 34 26  8 22  5  0 244.7 172  67  49  2  86 125 10  0  8  937 189 1.054  7.4 -0.4 -0.4  0.0  7.8
    Earl Hamilton      L 19 AL SLB  5 12 0.294  3.97 32 17 10 10  1  0 177.0 191 103  78  4  69  55  4  1  4  745  85 1.469  0.2 -0.1 -0.1  0.0  0.3
    Bill James         R 24 AL CLE  2  4 0.333  4.88  8  6  0  4  0  0  51.7  58  37  28  1  32  21  2  1  2  238  70 1.742 -0.7 -0.1 -0.1  0.0 -0.6
    Jack Killilay      R 24 AL BOS  4  2 0.667  3.54 14  7  5  1  0  0  61.0  65  26  24  0  36  28 10  0  1  261  93 1.656  0.6 -0.3 -0.3  0.0  0.9
    Gene Krapp         R 24 AL CLE 13  9 0.591  3.41 35 26  8 14  1  1 222.0 188 115  84  1 138 132 13  1 14  961 100 1.468  2.3  0.5  0.5  0.0  1.8
    Ed Lafitte         R 25 AL DET 11  8 0.579  3.92 29 20  8 15  0  1 172.3 205 113  75  2  52  63  5  0  8  735  89 1.491 -0.8 -0.3 -0.2 -0.1 -0.5
    Jack Lively        R 26 AL DET  7  5 0.583  4.59 18 14  2 10  0  0 113.7 143  73  58  1  34  45  7  0  3  498  76 1.557  0.2  0.4  0.4  0.0 -0.2
    Fred Sherry        R 22 AL WSH  0  4 0.000  4.30 10  3  6  2  0  0  52.3  63  40  25  1  19  20  0  1  1  222  77 1.567 -1.0  0.0  0.0  0.0 -1.0
    Hi West            R 26 AL CLE  3  4 0.429  3.76 13  8  5  3  0  1  64.7  84  35  27  1  18  17  3  0  0  266  91 1.577  0.1 -0.2 -0.2  0.0  0.3
    1911 National League Rookie Position Players
    HTML Code:
    Player             B Ag Lg Tm    G  PA  AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS  BB  SO    BA   OBP   SLG   OPS OPS+ TB HP SH DP tWAR bWAR oWAR dWAR pWAR Pos
    Pete Alexander*    R 24 NL PHI  50 140 138  12  24  5  1  0   9  1      2  27 0.174 0.186 0.225 0.410  14  31  0  0     7.3 -0.5 -0.4 -0.1  7.8 1
    Max Carey          S 21 NL PIT 129 503 427  77 110 15 10  5  43 27     44  75 0.258 0.337 0.375 0.712  96 160  7 25     2.1  2.1  1.2  0.9  0.0 *O
    Bob Coulson        R 24 NL BRO 146 587 521  52 122 23  7  0  50 32     42  78 0.234 0.301 0.305 0.606  73 159  8 16    -1.2 -1.2 -1.3  0.1  0.0 *O
    Jimmy Esmond       R 21 NL CIN  73 217 198  27  54  4  6  1  11  7     17  30 0.273 0.330 0.369 0.699  98  73  0  2    -0.1 -0.1  0.7 -0.8  0.0 65/4
    Newt Hunter        R 31 NL PIT  65 248 209  35  53 10  6  2  24  9     25  43 0.254 0.345 0.388 0.732 101  81  4 10     0.7  0.7  0.7  0.0  0.0 3
    Scotty Ingerton    R 25 NL BSN 136 575 521  63 130 24  4  5  61  6     39  68 0.250 0.304 0.340 0.644  75 177  2 13    -1.1 -1.1 -0.7 -0.4  0.0 5O34/6
    George Jackson     R 29 NL BSN  39 167 147  28  51 11  2  0  25 12     12  21 0.347 0.404 0.449 0.853 132  66  2  6     0.8  0.8  1.0 -0.2  0.0 O
    Al Kaiser          R 24 NL 2TM  92 311 281  36  61  5  7  2  22 10     17  38 0.217 0.267 0.306 0.573  57  86  2 11    -2.0 -2.0 -1.2 -0.8  0.0 O
    Armando Marsans    R 23 NL CIN  58 161 138  17  36  2  2  0  11 11     15  11 0.261 0.346 0.304 0.651  85  42  3  5    -0.3 -0.3  0.0 -0.3  0.0 O/35
    Alex McCarthy      R 22 NL PIT  50 172 150  18  36  5  1  2  31  4     14  24 0.240 0.305 0.327 0.632  74  49  0  8     0.9  0.9  0.2  0.7  0.0 64/5O
    Ed McDonald        R 24 NL BSN  54 220 175  28  36  7  3  1  21 11     40  39 0.206 0.359 0.297 0.657  79  52  2  3     0.2  0.2  0.3 -0.1  0.0 5/6
    Vic Saier          L 20 NL CHC  86 302 259  42  67 15  1  1  37 11     25  37 0.259 0.340 0.336 0.676  89  87  7 11     0.2  0.2  0.3 -0.1  0.0 3
    Wally Smith        R 23 NL STL  81 223 194  23  42  6  5  2  19  5     21  33 0.216 0.303 0.330 0.633  79  64  3  5     0.6  0.6  0.2  0.4  0.0 56/4O
    Harry Spratt       L 22 NL BSN  62 171 154  22  37  4  4  2  13  1     13  25 0.240 0.299 0.357 0.657  78  55  0  4    -0.7 -0.7  0.1 -0.8  0.0 6/45O
    Bert Tooley        R 24 NL BRO 119 491 433  55  89 11  3  1  29 18     53  63 0.206 0.295 0.252 0.547  56 109  2  3    -0.7 -0.7 -0.4 -0.3  0.0 *6
    Eddie Zimmerman    R 28 NL BRO 122 469 417  31  77 10  7  3  36  9     34  37 0.185 0.249 0.264 0.513  46 110  2 16    -1.3 -1.3 -1.5  0.2  0.0 *5
    1911 National League Rookie Pitchers
    HTML Code:
    Pitcher            T Ag Lg Tm   W  L  W-L%   ERA  G GS GF CG ST SV    IP   H   R  ER HR  BB  SO HP BK WP   BF ERA+ WHIP tWAR bWAR oWAR dWAR pWAR
    Pete Alexander*    R 24 NL PHI 28 13 0.683  2.57 48 37 11 31  7  3 367.0 285 133 105  5 129 227  8  1  4 1440 133 1.128  7.3 -0.5 -0.4 -0.1  7.8
    Sandy Burk         R 24 NL BRO  1  3 0.250  5.12 13  7  5  1  0  0  58.0  54  36  33  1  47  15  3  0  0  257  65 1.741 -0.7 -0.3 -0.2 -0.1 -0.4
    George Chalmers    R 23 NL PHI 13 10 0.565  3.11 38 22 13 11  3  4 208.7 196 107  72  5 101 101  4  2 10  870 111 1.423  0.9 -0.3 -0.3  0.0  1.2
    Jack Ferry         R 24 NL PIT  6  4 0.600  3.15 26  8 14  4  1  3  85.7  83  35  30  3  27  32  2  0  4  348 109 1.284  1.6  0.4  0.4  0.0  1.2
    Roy Golden         R 22 NL STL  4  9 0.308  5.02 30 25  3  6  0  0 148.7 127  90  83  6 129  81  5  0  8  663  67 1.722 -1.3 -0.3 -0.3  0.0 -1.0
    Hank Griffin       R 24 NL 2TM  0  6 0.000  5.38 16  7  5  1  0  0  83.7  97  72  50  4  37  31  6  1  3  362  71 1.602 -1.4  0.0  0.0  0.0 -1.4
    Claude Hendrix     R 22 NL PIT  4  6 0.400  2.73 22 12  7  6  1  1 118.7  85  52  36  1  53  57  1  0  6  471 126 1.163  1.0 -0.3 -0.3  0.0  1.3
    Lou Lowdermilk     L 24 NL STL  3  4 0.429  3.46 16  3 10  3  0  0  65.0  72  39  25  0  29  20  5  0  5  271  98 1.554 -0.6 -0.2 -0.1 -0.1 -0.4
    Hub Perdue         R 29 NL BSN  6 10 0.375  4.98 24 19  4  9  0  1 137.3 180 100  76 10  41  40  4  0  1  605  76 1.609 -0.6 -0.1 -0.1  0.0 -0.5
    Reggie Richter     R 22 NL CHC  1  3 0.250  3.13 22  5 12  0  0  2  54.7  62  30  19  1  20  34  3  0  3  225 106 1.500 -0.2 -0.1 -0.1  0.0 -0.1
    Bill Schardt       R 25 NL BRO  5 15 0.250  3.59 39 22 13 10  1  4 195.3 190 102  78  4  91  77  8  0  2  814  93 1.439  0.5 -0.1  0.0 -0.1  0.6
    Fred Toney         R 22 NL CHC  1  1 0.500  2.42 18  4  9  1  0  0  67.0  55  36  18  2  35  27  5  0  4  280 137 1.343 -0.3 -0.3 -0.2 -0.1  0.0
    Lefty Tyler        L 21 NL BSN  7 10 0.412  5.06 28 20  4 10  1  0 165.3 150 118  93 11 109  90 10  2  5  737  75 1.567 -0.4  0.0  0.0  0.0 -0.4
    Orlie Weaver       R 25 NL 2TM  5 14 0.263  5.30 33 20 10  5  1  0 164.7 169 114  97  9 101  70 11  0  5  722  69 1.640 -1.1 -0.5 -0.4 -0.1 -0.6

Ad Widget

Collapse
Working...
X