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  • Patsy Dougherty vs. Ducky Holmes

    We're playing the "who is better than his most similar comp" game.

    My starting point was Tommy Dowd, the guy with the lowest WAR among all batters with at least 5,000 plate appearances. I hope to work my way up to *somebody* vs. Babe Ruth. That'd be cool.

    Which of these players would you like to build your franchise around?


    1233 G
    5109 PA
    4558 AB
    678 R
    1294 H
    138 2B
    78 3B
    17 HR
    413 RBI
    261 SB
    378 BB
    458 K
    .284 BA
    .346 OBP
    .360 SLG
    .705 OPS
    117 OPS+
    1639 TB
    54 HBP
    119 SH
    22.6 WAR


    933 G
    4018 PA
    3605 AB
    540 R
    1014 H
    142 2B
    58 3B
    17 HR
    375 RBI
    236 SB
    236 BB
    304 K
    .281 BA
    .336 OBP
    .367 SLG
    .703 OPS
    99 OPS+
    1323 TB
    64 HBP
    113 SH
    9.8 WAR

    If Dougherty wins, he will face his most similar comp's eighth-most similar comp. If Holmes wins, he will face his second-most similar comp.

    Past face-offs (winner in bold):

    Tommy Dowd vs. Ned Hanlon (as a player)
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Joe Hornung
    Ned Hanlon (as a player) vs. Curt Welch
    Curt Welch vs. Blondie Purcell
    Curt Welch vs. Bob Bescher
    Curt Welch vs. George Pinkney
    Curt Welch vs. Joe Hornung
    Curt Welch vs. Rube Oldring
    Curt Welch vs. Solly Hofman
    Curt Welch vs. Tom York
    Curt Welch vs. George Case
    Curt Welch vs. Tommy Dowd
    Curt Welch vs. Charlie Hemphill
    Curt Welch vs. George Browne
    Curt Welch vs. Jack McCarthy
    Curt Welch vs. Shad Barry
    Curt Welch vs. Patsy Dougherty
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Carson Bigbee
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Jack Smith
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates - tie
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Johnny Bates vs. Cliff Heathcote vs. Mike Mitchell
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Lou Finney
    Patsy Dougherty vs. Whitey Witt
    Patsy Dougherty
    Ducky Holmes

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by Cowtipper; 04-13-2012, 01:36 PM.

  • #2
    Its tough to vote against a player with a 999 OPS+ but I did. Will Ducky Medwick or Tommy Holmes be showing up anytime soon?
    Last edited by PVNICK; 04-13-2012, 04:04 AM. Reason: typing issues


    • #3
      the great majority of "comparables" for any player turn out to be contemporaries, or at least people who played in the same general timespan ... as demonstrated by the names in post #1 here.

      But one of Ducky Holmes's (Major League debut 1895) most comparables is Scott Podsednik (Major League debut 2001)!

      is this the biggest time gap ever between comps? if not, what is?
      Last edited by westsidegrounds; 04-16-2012, 01:01 PM.


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