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Does anyone in history have a better first 124 innings in the MLB than Strasburg??

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  • Does anyone in history have a better first 124 innings in the MLB than Strasburg??

    can anyone find a player with a better first 124 innings???

  • #2
    I think Bob Feller probably did.

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    • #3
      depends on what happened August 11, 1937 and what his stats were for those first 6 innings

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      • #4
        Jonathan Papelbon, easily.
        My top 10 players:

        1. Babe Ruth
        2. Barry Bonds
        3. Ty Cobb
        4. Ted Williams
        5. Willie Mays
        6. Alex Rodriguez
        7. Hank Aaron
        8. Honus Wagner
        9. Lou Gehrig
        10. Mickey Mantle

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
          Jonathan Papelbon, easily.
          but it's a lot easier to put up stats as a reliever than as a starter

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Blackout View Post
            but it's a lot easier to put up stats as a reliever than as a starter
            Fair enough, but your question was "does anyone in history..." not " does any starting pitcher in history..."
            My top 10 players:

            1. Babe Ruth
            2. Barry Bonds
            3. Ty Cobb
            4. Ted Williams
            5. Willie Mays
            6. Alex Rodriguez
            7. Hank Aaron
            8. Honus Wagner
            9. Lou Gehrig
            10. Mickey Mantle

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            • #7
              I'm not going to do the research, but Valenzuela comes to mind. He pitched really well at the end of 1980 and was sensational in the early going in 1981.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
                Fair enough, but your question was "does anyone in history..." not " does any starting pitcher in history..."
                Its more an issue of what you define as "better". Isn it "better" for a starter to do what he did than a reliever to do what Paplebon did?

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                • #9
                  Anyway its too bad he's turning 24 soon and only has 124 career innings.

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                  • #10
                    Mark Fydrich.

                    Checking game logs he had given up gave up 23 earned runs when he reached 124 innings for a 1.67 ERA.
                    His ERA+ based on season long league era would have been 223 at the point of reaching 124 innings.
                    He also had 12 complete games including 3 11 inning complete games and his record was 11-2
                    And a 1.024 WHIP
                    Last edited by brett; 04-29-2012, 04:43 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by brett View Post
                      Mark Fydrich.

                      Checking game logs he gave up 23 earned runs when he reached 124 innings for a 1.67 ERA.
                      His ERA+ based on season long league era would have been 223 at the point of reaching 124 innings.
                      He also had 12 complete games including 3 11 inning complete games and his record was 11-2
                      And a 1.024 WHIP
                      I didn't realize he had three 11 inning CG's. That seems incredibly rare even in '76.
                      "No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”

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                      • #12
                        In Vida Blue's first 124 IP which included 42 P at age 19 with a plus 6 ERA, he had 5 complete game shutouts including a no hitter vs a very hard hitting division champion

                        Steven Strasburg has yet to throw one CG shutout, in fact he has never pitched more than 7 innings in any one game

                        Blue's 5 shutouts included these lines:
                        IP 42 (one game was shortened to 6 Innings)
                        H 10
                        K 43

                        that's correct a no hitter a 1 hitter a 2 hitter a 3 hitter and a 4 hitter
                        Last edited by 9RoyHobbsRF; 04-29-2012, 12:56 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Blackout View Post
                          can anyone find a player with a better first 124 innings???
                          Strasburg - 2.18 ERA
                          Steve Rogers - 1.40 ERA (after 128.2 IP)
                          Ed Reulbach - 1.42 ERA (after 291.2 IP)
                          Last edited by ipitch; 04-29-2012, 01:15 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Nap Rucker of the Brooklyn Superbas -1907

                            and here is a good comparison

                            Smokey Joe Wood-1908/09

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bluesky5 View Post
                              I didn't realize he had three 11 inning CG's. That seems incredibly rare even in '76.
                              How shocking that skinny kid's arm didn't last after that kind of workload!
                              "If I drink whiskey, I'll never get worms!" - Hack Wilson

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