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  • #16
    The 1920s are a tough choice.

    How about catcher Muddy Ruel and an older Walter Johnson?

    The A's came up with Cochrane and Grove at the same time, but in 1925.

    But what run!
    Your Second Base Coach
    Garvey, Lopes, Russell, and Cey started 833 times and the Dodgers went 498-335, for a .598 winning percentage. That’s equal to a team going 97-65 over a season. On those occasions when at least one of them missed his start, the Dodgers were 306-267-1, which is a .534 clip. That works out to a team going 87-75. So having all four of them added 10 wins to the Dodgers per year.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5hCIvMule0

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    • #17
      In the 1880s, we have Tim Keefe and Buck Ewing, right?
      Your Second Base Coach
      Garvey, Lopes, Russell, and Cey started 833 times and the Dodgers went 498-335, for a .598 winning percentage. That’s equal to a team going 97-65 over a season. On those occasions when at least one of them missed his start, the Dodgers were 306-267-1, which is a .534 clip. That works out to a team going 87-75. So having all four of them added 10 wins to the Dodgers per year.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5hCIvMule0

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      • #18
        Well, there was Jamie Moyer and Dan Wilson.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Seattle1 View Post
          Well, there was Jamie Moyer and Dan Wilson.
          I'd pick Johnson and Wilson before Moyer and Wilson.
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          • #20
            Mike Piazza and Al Leiter from 1998-2004 is another good one.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by GiambiJuice View Post
              I would say Maddux and Javy Lopez for the 90s, but I think Maddux usually used a personal catcher.
              Eddie Perez was Maddux' personal catcher while he was a Brave.

              It's hard to determine greatness on both ends without one reatly outweighing the othr.
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              • #22
                Newcombe and Campanella are a good matchup to Ford and Berra for the 1950's.

                Bucky Walters and Ernie Lombardi were great in the late 30's, early 40's, but not there for long enough in either decade.

                Red Ruffing and Bill Dickey for the 1930's - they couldn't match Grove and Cochrane when they were together, but they actually did hang in there for the entire decade.

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                • #23
                  The Cooper brothers for the Cardinals in the 1940s. Carpenter and Molina from 2005-2011. Christy Mathewson and
                  Roger Bresnahan in the early to late 1900s. How about an aging Nolan Ryan and an up and coming Ivan Rodriguez in the early 90s with the Rangers?

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                  • #24
                    Going back only as far as 1901 and allowing for decad overlaps:

                    Kling and Brown
                    Killefer and Alexander
                    Cochrane and Grove
                    Dickey and Gomez [Ruffing]
                    Hartnett and Warneke
                    the Brothers Cooper, Walker and Mort
                    Hegan and Feller
                    Campanella and Newcombe
                    Roseboro and Koufax
                    Grote and Seaver
                    Boone and Carlton
                    Javvy Lopez and Maddux
                    Yadier Molina + Whoever is on the mound

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Second Base Coach View Post
                      In the 1900s, I thought of Roger Bresnahan and Christy Mathewson.

                      Roger came in out of the outfield to catch, just as Mathewson his his stride as a pitcher.
                      Bresnahan and Mathewson was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw this thread title, partly because the first line on Bresnahan's hall of fame plaque states "battery mate of Christy Mathewson". So when I think of a "famous battery", Bresnahan and Mathewson comes to mind. I've always wondered why they chose to put that as the first line on his plaque - was it because the greater value placed on the battery in the early 1900's made such a statement an honor? Or is it a back-handed compliment because they couldn't think of anything complimentary to say about Bresnahan so they mentioned Matty?

                      Maybe Johnny Roseboro should be in the hall since his plaque could read "battery mate of Sandy Koufax AND Don Drysdale"?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by leewileyfan View Post
                        Hegan and Feller
                        I think Hegan and Lemon was probably better. Feller's best battery mate was probably Rollie Hemsley.

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                        • #27
                          As I recall, Feller sang the praises of Frank Hayes. I never got my head around that.

                          Fact is, I wanted to list Hegan with somebody.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by leewileyfan View Post
                            As I recall, Feller sang the praises of Frank Hayes. I never got my head around that.

                            Fact is, I wanted to list Hegan with somebody.
                            Frank Hayes was a good catcher in his day. He was actually only with the Indians for a short time. He was the catcher when Feller threw his no-hitter against the Yankees in 1946.

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                            • #29
                              I saw Hayes catch, several times, both with the A's and the Indians. I am not knocking Hayes; but in the years he played, he was overshadowed in a bumper crop of catchers [1930s and '40s], many noted for defensive skills.

                              Feller broke in with Franjie Pytlak as a battery-mate, a very skilled catcher [and very much under-remembered, in hindsight]; and Hemsley came a season or two later. Over those years, Todd, Lopez, Gus Mancuso, Harry Danning, Hartnett, Shanty Hogan, Dickey were notable; and as the decade + of Hayes' active play, more and more gifted catchers marched on stage: Ray Mueller, Tebbetts, Rosar, Early, Richards, Swift and Hegan.

                              Heck, a separate chapter in baseball lore could be written on any of these, which is why Frank Hayes was hard to comprehend as a top-notch battery mate. Of all the Cleveland catchers, Jim Hegan was a defensive standout and largely credited with Cleveland pitching successes for over a decade. Hegan, great in keeping base runners honest, was famous for picking runners off base. I was lucky enough to have witnessed one "rope" from behind the plate to second base - catching a much surprised runner who had taken too generous a lead.

                              That's why I named Hegan, first [in the battery] - putting Feller alongside [although any of several Tribe pitchers could have completed the duo]. My favorite at the time was Feller.

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                              • #30
                                Steve Carlton and Bob Boone, 1970s

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