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Originally posted by pheasant View PostBased on the height of the bounce and the fact it was hit on turf, that wasn't that slow of grounder.
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Originally posted by ipitch View PostStrikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis
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Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View PostI cam across this video of Bo Jackson. There is a part where Bo beats out a grounder to SECOND BASE! And he beat it with ease! I still can't believe it. Go to time 0:57.
(As if they didn't have enough evidence to back their perspective that football is a better/more entertaining spectator sport with much better athletes, as it is...)
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Originally posted by csh19792001 View PostThank you for supporting/providing just another piece of significant ammunition/tangible evidence that baseball players are small, weak, and unathletic compared to NFL guys. Most of my friends, who favor football over baseball......and don't think baseball is a "real sport" (by comparison), thank you vicariously!
(As if they didn't have enough evidence to back their perspective that football is a better/more entertaining spectator sport with much better athletes, as it is...)
According to Baseball America Bo Jackson was the greatest tools prospect ever.
BO JACKSON
At Baseball America, we are always looking for the best tools. They are the essence of a player, the simplest way of breaking down their abilities on the field. We even have an issue devoted to them each year. And there has been no player with a better package of tools than Bo Jackson.
"I have seen a lot of great ones in my time," said Art Stewart, who was the scouting director when the Royals drafted Jackson. "I can't recall anyone who had greater tools than him."
Jackson had it all: the power of Mantle, the speed of Mays and the arm of Clemente. But he also had a five-year, $7.5 million contract offer from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the No. 1 overall pick in the 1986 NFL draft. The fact that he began his career as a baseball player was shocking enough, but the Royals knew him better then anyone.
Royals area scout Ken Gonzales always stayed at the same Ramada Inn in Bessemer, Ala., where Jackson's mother worked. They became friends and would always get together for coffee when he was in town. He knew Bo was unsignable as a high school senior and as a college junior because he had promised his mother he would be the first in his family to get a college degree.
Jackson earned his fame on the football field and won the 1985 Heisman Trophy at Auburn, but he also starred for the Tigers on the diamond. He lost his baseball eligibility his senior year when Tampa Bay flew him in on a private jet to wine him and dine him.
This embittered Jackson toward the Buccaneers and opened the door for him to play baseball. When general manager John Schuerholz got a call from his agent the day of the draft saying, "If Bo plays baseball, he wants to play for the Royals," they decided to take a chance.
"Ownership or John never told me when to take him because it was still a risk," Stewart said. "To this day I can't tell you why, but I said to myself, a fourth-round pick is worth it. If Bo doesn't sign, the franchise is not going to fold."
Gonzales' groundwork paid off and Jackson signed a couple of weeks after the draft, and he was in the big leagues that September. His production over his first three big league seasons was not exceptional, but that is not what people remember. They remember the home run he hit to lead off the 1989 All-Star Game, him running up the wall in center field or his 300-foot lasers to nail a runner trying to score. After the 1987 season, he decided to play professional football as a "hobby" to become the world's most famous two-sport athlete.
By 1990, he was coming into his own as a baseball player, hitting .278-28-78, but he hurt his hip in a Raiders playoff game the next January and was never the same, though his career continued through 1994.
"Without a doubt to me he is the greatest athlete of the 20th century," Stewart said. "Because of all the football he played, he really learned to play baseball in the major leagues. That is how exceptional of a talent he was."
--MATT MEYERSLast edited by Honus Wagner Rules; 05-16-2012, 11:10 AM.Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis
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Originally posted by torez77 View PostBaseball: All-or-nothing player.
Football: Maybe the greatest running back who ever lived.....
I never thought of him as a good baseball player either. He had some cool highlights but thats about it."(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack
"I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)
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Thought Bo had his faults as a ballplayer he certainly wasn't an all or nothing player. His 1990 season was a very good season. Jackson's walk rate was increasing and his strikeout rate was decreasing at the same type. His 1990 season looks like a typical Daryl Strawberry in his prime season.Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis
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Originally posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View PostNo way is he even a top 10 running back of alltime. Maybe he had a top 10 season for a runningback but comparing him to guys like Payton or Sanders is way off. He had the talent to be one of the best but his career was way too short and he shouldnt be considered for the Football HOF either.Red, it took me 16 years to get here. Play me, and you'll get the best I got.
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Originally posted by Honus Wagner Rules View PostThought Bo had his faults as a ballplayer he certainly wasn't an all or nothing player. His 1990 season was a very good season. Jackson's walk rate was increasing and his strikeout rate was decreasing at the same type. His 1990 season looks like a typical Daryl Strawberry in his prime season.
As WhiteSox1173 said he had highlights, but that's it. Had he played longer he may have developed into a borderline HOFer, but I doubt it.Red, it took me 16 years to get here. Play me, and you'll get the best I got.
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