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  • B.J. Surhoff vs Carlos Delgado

    I'm going to run a series of polls with the winner advancing each time to face another opponent. Will leave each poll up for a week. I'll try to provide as much statistical information as possible. Hopefully we can get some lively insightful debates going and bring to light some overlooked players from yesteryear.
    If you could pick between these two players to start your franchise with which would you pick? Please consider all relavent information. Their careers as a whole, peak performance, hitting, fielding, baserunning, positional value, league quality, etc.

    B.J. Surhoff

    2313 games
    9106 plate appearances
    8258 at-bats
    1062 runs
    2326 hits
    440 doubles
    42 triples
    188 home runs
    1153 RBI
    141 stolen bases
    84 caught stealing
    640 walks
    839 strikeouts
    .282 AVG
    .332 OBP
    .413 SLG
    .745 OPS
    98 OPS+
    3414 total bases
    1138 runs created
    4.8 RC/G
    105 AIR
    .484 OW%
    .670 Total Average
    .216 Secondary Average
    222.6 Win Shares
    51.2 WSAB
    26.6 WARP1
    30.8 WARP3
    30.3 rWAR
    35.6 fWAR
    21.6 sWAR

    Carlos Delgado

    2035 games
    8657 plate appearances
    7283 at-bats
    1241 runs
    2038 hits
    483 doubles
    18 triples
    473 home runs
    1512 RBI
    14 stolen bases
    8 caught stealing
    1109 walks
    1745 strikeouts
    .280 AVG
    .383 OBP
    .546 SLG
    .929 OPS
    138 OPS+
    3976 total bases
    1588 runs created
    7.7 RC/G
    110 AIR
    .678 OW%
    .974 Total Average
    .419 Secondary Average
    303.8 Win Shares
    161.2 WSAB
    48.6 WARP1
    50.7 WARP3
    40.4 rWAR
    46.3 fWAR
    47.7 sWAR

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    Mickey Vernon vs Carlos Delgado
    8
    B.J. Surhoff
    0.00%
    0
    Carlos Delgado
    100.00%
    8

    The poll is expired.

    My dream ballpark dimensions
    LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
    RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
    Location....San Diego

  • #2
    V/ Delgado

    HOF-caliber player. Had some years where he was the best hitter in MLB.

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    • #3
      I have the feeling it's going to Delgado for a while, considering the matchups Sockeye usually chooses.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Cowtipper View Post
        I have the feeling it's going to Delgado for a while, considering the matchups Sockeye usually chooses.
        3 different winners in the last 4 polls....
        My dream ballpark dimensions
        LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
        RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
        Location....San Diego

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sockeye View Post
          3 different winners in the last 4 polls....
          Four different winners last 29 polls...

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          • #6
            I pick Delgado
            “There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil.” Walter Lippmann

            "Fill in any figure you want for that boy (Mantle). Whatever the figure, it's a deal." - Branch Rickey

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cowtipper View Post
              Four different winners last 29 polls...
              Juan Gonzalez was a beast. Beat a lot of very good players. Actually I don't see a lot of different between Gonzalez, Canseco, and Delgado. Maybe a slight edge to Delgado. I'm still rather surprised that Delgado shutout Vernon while Vernon defeated both Canseco and Gonzalez. In looking at the numbers I also found it interesting how similar Surhoff's and Vernon's number were to each other. Nearly across the board. I suspect Vernon would have beaten Surhoff but I'm not so sure he was better. As for this Matchup Delgado vs Surhoff I think Delgado out classes him for a fair margin.
              My dream ballpark dimensions
              LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
              RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
              Location....San Diego

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